[Ansteorra] Re period line question
Harris Mark.S-rsve60
Mark.s.Harris at motorola.com
Mon Oct 7 09:57:07 PDT 2002
Seraphina commented:
> White linen is period, and pre period...back to ancient
> times. They
> bleached the linen in the sun. If you use chorine bleach on
> linen or silk it will turn it yellow.
Thanks for the info and the links.
Here is a bit of info from the linen-msg file in the Florilegium
that touches on this bleaching of linen a little and in particular
mentions how the specific method used to ret the flax can affect the
natural color.
Stefan
stefan at florilegium.org
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:18:50 -0800
From: Brett and Karen Williams <brettwi at earthlink.net>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Linen thread
"Gray, Lyle" wrote:
> >Incidentally, do not contemplate stream-retting flax, hemp or nettle.
> >Highly poisonous-- the released toxins will go downstream and poison the
> >local wildlife.
<snip>
> >Apparently white linen thread
> >is now chemically bleached rather than processed that way.
>
> Ah, good, someone commented on that, good. I have a reference to linen
> thread used to sew a book in the 7th-8th centuries, which commented that
> the thread was very white. I had suspected that this was because of a
> natural retting process, rather than boiling (I've noticed that boiling
> tends to darken the fibers, regardless of what you boil in).
Apparently dew-retting produces a darker, greyer product as opposed to
stream retting, which produces a lighter, more silvery product. Also,
you can always spread the spun yarn out on clover/grass, which is an
effective, if slow, way to bleach linen. Clover is full of oxalic acid,
which acts as a bleach.
So, the old way of spreading one's linen cloth out on the grass to dry
contributed to the whitening of the cloth.
<snip>
ciorstan
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