[Ansteorra] paper selection

Alden Drake alden_drake at sbcglobal.net
Fri Feb 12 21:15:41 PST 2010


OOOH, an update!

I think I puzzeled out the names on the bottom of the page: http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00001647/images/index.html?id=00001647&fip=99.2.46.106&no=9&seite=16

The arms on the bottom left of the page, I believe, are the arms of Edward Stafford, 3rd Duke of Buckingham (seems to make sense; Stafford is in the fourth quarter and the crest and supporters are the Buckingham swan).

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Buckingham,
"Edward Stafford, 3rd Duke of Buckingham, was restored to the title upon Henry VII's accession to the throne in 1485, but he was ultimately executed for treason in 1521 due to his opposition to Cardinal Thomas Wolsey, Henry VIII's chief advisor. At this time the title became extinct."

The arms on the bottom right of the page are the arms of the Earl of Devonshire, Ref. http://books.google.com/books?id=OBwNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=%22a+bordure+quarterly+gules+and+azure%22&source=bl&ots=v6yz0PUSu7&sig=FfiOEdyfG0ocgUY_KdVGn4oz8Ic&hl=en&ei=yi52S_-kKpD0M7zIzJcP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22a%20bordure%20quarterly%20gules%20and%20azure%22&f=false

And according to the following, he later became the Marquess of Exeter, which is sort of what can be made out from the handwriting on the book page...sort of...if you squint.

And from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Devon,

"Henry Courtenay, his only surviving son, inherited his father's Earldom. In 1512, his father's attainder was reversed, making him heir to his grandfather's earldom; thus becoming second Earl of both the third and fourth creations; and in 1525 Marquess of Exeter. Unfortunately, in 1538, he was tried, convicted, attainted and beheaded, for conspiring with the Poles and Nevilles against the government of Thomas Cromwell in the aftermath of the Pilgrimage of Grace. At this point, all his titles were forfeited: the Marquessate, the Earldoms of the third and fourth creation, and (if revived) the ancient Earldom also."
 
So these two would also seem to support my "crossed out if they were executed" theory. 
 
Cheers!
Alden Drake
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