[Ansteorra] Shenanigans.

[julie mcknight]

>From a far away from home Laurel.....well said Cadfan, Robin and Gwyneth.   Robin I thought this point was excellent

"I suspect that it really happened.  That somebody got a low score for a bunch of reasons, and seized upon the one that would make the best story, rather than giving a full and balanced account"

Mara
OL
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From: gail young <gwynethb63 at yahoo.com>
To: Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 7:38:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Shenanigans.

Wow Robin...are you calling me a bard...?  Cause if you are it may be one of the greatest compliments I have ever gotten.  If not, don't clarify..LOL.
My REAL point was to let people who get upset at scores and blame the Laurels know that, yes, some of us compete and we are subject to the same kinds of criticisms as everyone else. Some of us are evil, many of us are not.
You pays your money you takes your chances.
gwyneth 
OL




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From: Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 6:30:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Shenanigans.

Great post, Cadfan.  A couple of extra thoughts:

>OK, so someone on this list says they know of an A&S judge, or have heard of
>an A&S judge, who marked a fiber arts contestant down for not using her own
>urine in the dying process.

One legitimate question in this kind of issue is this: marked down how much, from what score to what score?  If the item is marked down from 50 to 49.5 for not using the period technique, that's legitimate.  If it's marked down from a 23 to a 22.5,that's legitimate.  But if you just say, "marked down", you are trying to lump these possibilities with marking an item down from a 50 to a 30."  

Yes, going the extra mile to use the weird-ass period technique will get you points for coolness.  That is the exact same statement as saying not using it will cost you points.

A > B is the same as B < A.

>*sigh*  I don't think anybody's telling deliberate untruths for bad reasons,
>or good reasons, or even at all. I do think we're playing a giant game of
>indignation-fueled Post Office, each building just a little on one another's
>outrage until we've started going just a little postal.

Absolutely.  But one aspect of indignation-fueled Post Office is exaggeration.  Losing a point for inaccurate technique is not the same as being mistreated.

I suspect that it really happened.  That somebody got a low score for a bunch of reasons, and seized upon the one that would make the best story, rather than giving a full and balanced account.  I'm a bard, too.  That's what we do.

>What's Middle Welsh for "Operators are standing by?"

"Pleidiol wyf i'm cellphone."

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

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