[Ansteorra] Fee Increase and other Business...

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
Thu Feb 18 09:57:54 PST 2010


I just realized that my posting on NMS didn't specify that it only 
applied to those without proof of membership.  It may seem obvious, but 
there ya go. =)

Donnchadh

On 2/18/2010 11:23 AM, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
> Here are the current rules for NMS:
> For people 18 or older, you DO still have to pay NMS if you pay ANY 
> site fee.
> For children and teens under 18, if there is a reduced site fee, then 
> they DO NOT have to pay NMS (This is why many groups have a teen price 
> that is just $1 less than adults).
> For anyone, if they do not have to pay site fee for whatever reason 
> (It's a free event, you're fully comped for whatever reason), then you 
> DO NOT have to pay NMS.
> I'm 100% sure on this part.
>
> When it comes to who you can give a reduced rate (including free site 
> fee), my understanding is that it must be defined by a roll or group.  
> For example, It's fine to say the B&B, the Crown and one entaurage, 
> current champions, and people for whom this is their first event are 
> all comped.  What you can't do is say, we're letting Bob in for free 
> because we like him and he's short on cash.  I don't see any reason 
> why we couldn't give out an invitation or coupon to help identify 
> those people at gate, so long as they're not given to people who don't 
> fall within the parameters.
> I am a little more fuzzy on this part and it is just my understanding 
> of the rules, and I expect my boss will correct me if I'm wrong. =)
>
> In Service,
> Baron Donnchadh
> Northern Regional Exchequer - Acting
>
> On 2/18/2010 10:42 AM, Jay Rudin wrote:
>> Lochlan wrote:
>>
>>>   Maybe a coupon for free admittance that clearly states $5 per 
>>> person non-member fee still applies.
>> Except that it doesn't.  Last time I attended the treasurer class 
>> (which was a few years ago), the non-member surcharge only applied to 
>> full site fees.  It didn't apply to any discounted category (like 
>> children or champions).  If we had a discount or coupon for their 
>> first three events, I don't think the NMS would apply.
>>
>> But before you set this up for your event, check with somebody who is 
>> current on the financial regs.
>>
>> (At one point I suggested charging $10.01 for Robin of Gilwell, and 
>> $10 for everyone else, and there's no NMS.  That would be legal, and 
>> it would work -- once.  Then the rules would change to prevent it.  
>> The BoD isn't stupid.)
>>
>> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>>
>> P.S.  I recommend that anybody who wants to understand the SCA better 
>> attend the seneschal's class and the treasurer's class at Red Tape.  
>> Over time, I would add several more.  You understand a game better if 
>> you know all the rules.
>>
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