[Ansteorra] Corporate Structure (was Non-Member Surcharge)

[L T]

For one thing... the differences between Kingdoms...would become greater...and there would be a bigger culture shock to go to say...Gulf War or Pennsic...and...you'd probably have to pay their NMS or become members of the other locally incorporated groups to attend... 

It would also be easier to wipe out the locally incorporated group with one lawsuit...
or one incompetent ruler...

I would imagine the administrative costs would probably be greater.You'd have to have file storage fees, cost for administrative personnel, a "store front"...etc... plus all the drama that ensues in establishing those things. 

L DeerSlayer



----- Original Message ----
From: Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com>
To:  Inc.Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 3:32:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Corporate Structure (was Non-Member Surcharge)

Please note that by SCA, Unincorporated, I don't mean that as some sort of legal structure, but as a mindset. I really don't care what our legal structure looks like, but I do care when Ansteorrans can't do what's best for us because it might not be best for someone else in a different kingdom, far far away, and BoD's already made a rule about it...

R the O

Wonder is the cause of delight because it carries the hope of discovery.     -Thomas Aquinas

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rose <rose_welch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Corporate Structure (was Non-Member Surcharge)
To: "Jay Rudin" <rudin at ev1.net>, " Inc.Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:27 PM

I think that all of those things are worthy and possible, even the mansion and the yacht. However, I think that the mansion and the yacht are less attainable than everything else you listed.

I would like to see SCA, Unincorporated, where we're all able to do what makes OUR Kingdom happy. I understand that out group needs insurance to rent sites, but we don't need SCA, Inc. for insurance. SCA, Inc. doesn't help support us, except in a few legal aspects that we could take care of ourselves.

You know, I could be wrong. Can someone please tell me what SCA, Inc. does for us that we couldn't do for ourselves, with the same amount of time, paperwork, and money that we're presently spending?


-R the O

Wonder is the cause of delight because it carries the hope of discovery.     -Thomas Aquinas

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:

From: Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Corporate Structure (was Non-Member Surcharge)
To: "Ansteorra" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 2:21 PM

I want the corporation to act like it's a support organization, not an owner.

I want Ansteorra to own the Ansteorran crowns and thrones.

I want the Corporation's activities scaled back to fit the budget, not the income sources scaled up to meet the desired activities.

Ideally, I'd like separate regional and local corporations with financial autonomy, so the SCA is not a fat, rich target for lawyers.

I'd like the BoD members to stay in people's homes instead of hotels when they hold meetings, since the supposed purpose is for us to get to know them better.

I want to move the corporation out of one of the most expensive cities in the country.

I want the absurd increase in paperwork in the last seven to ten years scaled back, so small towns can support branches again.  

I want the corporation to be a support for our kingdoms, rather than the current drain.

And I want a mansion and a yacht.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

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