[Ansteorra] tagging newcomers (was: Newbie's perspective on NMS and other things)

[Danielle Jennings]

So that they are not marked as "new" what if the token or ribbon some how
marked when they started ( had the year or a symbol of that reign on it)
then it transitions from being hey I am new to hey this year marks my 10th
anniversary in the SCA. Also I agree that this really will not work unless
it is a kingdom wide thing newbies are generally (or should be) comfortable
enough with people in their local group to pipe up when they need help or
have a question, so it really becomes an issue at events in which case
everyone would need to at least recognize the ribbon/token.

On 19 February 2010 16:18, L T <ldeerslayer at yahoo.com> wrote:

> In both groups I lived in in Ansteorra...it was tried about once every 5
> years.
>
> Reaction varied...some people didn't want to be "marked" as "new;" others
> loved it.
> Since the symbolism was local...usually only the 10%ers in the local group
> ever really reacted to the badge/sash/etc...
>
> I just taught new people that if they got in an uncomfortable situation or
> felt pressured that they needed to speak up and say "I'm new so I don't
> quite understand xxx"... It made the newcomers self starters instead of
> having them rely on some symbol and rely on older members to remember the
> symbol...which often became way too complex...the simpler, more direct way
> is usually best.
>
> L DeerSlayer
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Fiona the Needleworker <danab-steppes at tx.rr.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 3:50:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] tagging newcomers (was: Newbie's perspective on
> NMS and other things)
>
> What if we created some sort of discrete favor of some sort, like a ribbon
> or something that would attach to the belt or dress or something, that we
> could keep a look out and know they were new. And we could/would/should let
> them know that it means that people will be watching out for them, making
> sure they're okay and taken care of. That if they need anything, they would
> be able to walk up to anyone without one to ask questions about something,
> and that they would be able to also see anyone else that was in the same
> boat as them and new to the SCA?
>
> Sorry...long. I know.
>
> Fiona
>
> On Feb 19, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Coblaith Muimnech wrote:
>
> > Donnchadh wrote:
> >> One idea that was brought up was having a badge or sash that we could
> give to newcomers.  The idea being that others would then recognize that the
> person wearing it was a newcomer and we could offer whatever help and
> guidance was needed.  As a newcomer, what would your feelings on something
> like that be?
> >
> > At a recent event, a newcomer commented to me that when her sister was
> hired as a freshly-minted nurse, she had to wear some sort of identifying
> doohicky (I forget what it was, exactly) at work for the first 6 months so
> everybody who saw her would at a glance understand that she couldn't yet be
> relied on to know all the rules and procedures, and that she felt like she
> needed something like that to wear at S.C.A. events so people would
> understand things needed to be explained to her in a way they wouldn't to
> someone who'd been around for a while.
> >
> > Personally, I've always thought something like that was a good idea.  The
> only coherent objection that I've ever heard is that it might make newcomers
> feel marginalized or make the shy ones uncomfortable, and that doesn't hold
> water if the only people using them are the ones who want to.
> >
> >
> > Coblaith Muimnech
> > <mailto:Coblaith at sbcglobal.net>
> > <http://coblaith.net>
> >
> >
> >
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