[Ansteorra] Voluntary tagging

[Craig HarmanLast Name]

I am kinda a newcomer myself. If anything could be worn maybe a feather amongs the head peice or somthing to that effect. All in the end i do agree that if they wanted to be noticed then they would. Any how if thare is a feather out thare with the colers of the kingdom I would ware it...

Clavicuss (Krag) Moedeul




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From: James Crouchet <james at crouchet.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:04:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Voluntary tagging

Making the hospitaler (or whoever) identifiable is a good idea but it does
not address the issue here.

If we are to retain newcomers then helping them settle in needs to be the
business of the populace at large, not just one officer or contact.

As to the other issues, if the newcomer is not comfortable with a badge, he
or she can choose not to wear it. In turn they should realize people will be
less likely to recognize them as newcomers and offer them the sort of help
and advice newcomers typically need. It follows that someone who chooses to
be more anonymous will indeed be more anonymous.

If someone is not interested in or comfortable helping newcomers, they don't
have to. So long as a few people at each event help each newcomer the
purpose is served. Most newcomers will get the information and assistance
they need, and will feel welcome.

BTW, I would add that a sign at gate might be a good idea. Something like:
New to the SCA? Let is know so we can help! Also, look for the person
wearing this symbol (picture of hospitaler's badge) for more information.

Christian Doré

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Patty <prand at swbell.net> wrote:

> I have been lurking long enough.  Christian, I do not think that Robin or
> Maria meant that we need to "treat" everyone like a newcomer.  By being nice
> to everyone you are opening up the opportunity for a newcomer to maybe ask a
> question thus revealing they are a newcomer.  If they are not a newcomer
> then you are meeting someone new.
>
> Great discussion but why are we trying to identify the newcomer?  Why not
> identify the "go to" person(s) for the newcomers or for that matter anyone
> else that has a question about the event to seek out.  Have several people
> wearing a sash or something noticeable that everyone would know they could
> go to for answers.  When people check in at gate we can let them know to
> look for those people wearing "blah blah blah" " they can answer any of your
> questions."  You have members of your local group who are willing to wear
> something very noticeable and to answer questions for not only the newcomer
> but for those needing information about the activities going on at your
> event  This eliminates maybe making the newcomer feel uncomfotable and for
> everyone having to "look" for that newcomer badge, sash or whatever.
>
> HL Caitriona
> former Coastal Region Hospitaler and Hospitaler for Seawinds
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Maria Buchanan <scarlettmb at sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
> >
> > I think the best idea is what Robin has already said.  Be nice to
> everyone
> > and you will eventually find a newcomer who you are being nice to.
> >
> >
> --- On Wed, 2/24/10, James Crouchet <james at crouchet.com> wrote:
>
> I presume that is what we are doing now. Obviously some of us think that is
> not enough or we would not be having this conversation.
>
> I'll say again, THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING NICE. I presume we are already
> trying to do that. But helping a newcomer is different from helping long
> time SCAers. For example, if I offer to explain the meaning of the awards
> being given in court a newcomer will probably be interested while an
> oldtimer will probably be annoyed. Also, a newcomer is more likely to need
> a
> place to sit, feast gear or a cloak and they are less likely to have
> friends
> to ask. Given that their needs are different, treating the newcomer and the
> oldtimer the same is not rational.
>
> All of which brings us back to the question of how to identify newcomers.
> If
> we depend on extended conversations and good detective work that means
> those
> SCAers who are BUSY (you know who you are) will typically not notice the
> newcomers, especially at kingdom events or in large groups like Bryn Gwlad,
> Elfsea and Steppes where not everyone knows one another.
>
> Christian Doré
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