Heraldry

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in regards to Leslie Miller's post responding to Aodhan's post 
Thu, 06 Apr 95 10:04:09 CST

(snip)
> I am well aware of that, thank you.  I said nothing in my post aout 
> "knowing" or not "knowing" about the existance of something.  (I 
> was not aware that New Zealand was not discovered until so much 
> later.)
> 
The rules state that you can use animals (and objects) that were 
known in period to Western Europe ( Western Europe has contact with)
(pre 1601)

(snip) 
> > There were buffalo (water buffalo) known to Europeans. 
> > But water buffalo do not look like American buffalo, and the 
buffalo> depicted on the Barony of Eldern Hills' banners look like 
American > buffalo.  Is this artistic licence?
> 
> > In the specific case
> > of Duke Lloyd'sarms, these were registered in 1980; we are not obligated to
> > repeat past mistakes.
> 
> Ah, so they'd no longer be allowed?  This is information I did not 
> know, and I thank you for providing it.

Western Europeans had contact with them in period. Technically they 
are still allowed.
(major snip)
> > Re: polar bears.  Ever hear of the Rus or the Vikings??
> 
> Yes, amazingly enough, I have.  In fact, I have done extensive research 
> in Viking history, and actually attended graduate school for a 
> stint at UC Berkeley in the Scandinavian languages and literature 
> department studying Old Norse.
> 
Cool, are you working with our college of heralds. We need more 
language experts in kingdom.  The College of Arms is getting really 
sticky on matters of name construction and temporal consistancy. The 
more people we get who are schooled in name construction in period 
the more chance we have of getting people's names to pass at Laurel 
level (our utmost goal)
(another major snip) 
> HL Gunhilda
> Shire of Mooneschadowe
> miller at pp.okstate.edu
>  
> Leslie Miller                    
> Environmental Health and Safety
> (405) 744-7241
> miller at pp.okstate.edu     
> 
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Lorraine