Teasing vs. the SCA and e-mail
I. Marc Carlson
LIB_IMC at centum.utulsa.edu
Thu Dec 5 10:26:49 PST 1996
>First, let me say right off that I have no desire to begin a disagreement
>with Diarmuit on the matter of e-mail communications. I would, however,
>like to argue a bit ("argue" in the original, Latin sense of the word:
If we disagree, we disagree. You are unlikely to convince me that I'm
wrong about some of these things, and convincing you that you are in error
is the farthest thing from my mind.
>Well, yes and no. The medium is not conducive to expressions of body
>language, and modern Americans--as any writing teacher can attest--have
>learned oral expression as their primary communications mode...
I disagree that this has anything to do with the problems inherent in
electronic communication since, unless I'm sorely mistaken, *most* humans
learn oral expression as their primary commnications mode.
>>In other words, a simple misunderstanding. Don't take it too badly, I
>>really doubt that the original author (I haven't read any of the follow-up)
>>meant to disregard your levity, but rather used it as a stepping stone
>>to a more important (to them) topic.
>--clearly indicates that he also took Pug's meaning. Diarmuit also offers,
>here, a rather harsh judgment on Crandall's response....
Excuse me? How is suggesting that the author (I'll take your word for
it being Crandall since I don't have the original notes in front of me)
was simply using a joking comment as a means to move along to a more
serious discussion "rather harsh"? It is a communication technique
that *I*, for instance, use regularly.
>Again, I think some clarification is in order. Failures of type (a) and (b)
>are common among the best writers and readers. Ovid's jokes got him
>banished from Rome....Misreadings will occur.
I'm sorry that you felt that I was unclear in my explanation. I had
hoped that not pointing out the fact that MOST communications errors are,
in fact, someone's "fault" I might avoid having to express an opinion
on just *whose* fault it was. Far better to fall back on the simple
nonjudgmental statements based on the premise that *all* information
transmission is based on the following model:
A [Message Transmission]--->[signal]--->[Message Reception] B
>...If you inadvertently step into a debate of which you were previously
>uninformed, you're likely to draw unexpected fire.
You mean like now.
>...exactly the sort of thing Diarmuit's claiming. People who ignore
>content in order to address context--who ignore context in order to
>address content--make us, as writers, feel used...
Yes, they do.
>...Pointing out that a misunderstood statement was merely a joke, politely
>offers clarification. Accusing someone who doesn't see the humor in your
>joke of humorlessness is merely rude.
If you felt that this was what I was doing in this case, I would be
*fascinated* to see how you came to that conclusion.
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