Medivial Pavilions- LONG
Maureen_Martinez at ccmail.us.dell.com
Mon Feb 19 13:31:31 PST 1996
From Jenny Winslow:
If you look closely at many of the illustrations that show "round"
pavilions, they often have many poles and ropes. Using multiple poles in a
'circular' pattern usually indicates that you have a x-sided pavilion
(8-sided, 10-sided, etc). I know of no way to use multiple poles to
support a truly round design.
I have seen two "round pavilions" in real life. Both of these used a rigid
ring to support the walls. The only pole used was the center pole. The
walls were supported at the top by the ring, and pulled out at the bottom
by stakes. Making a "sided" pavilion, eliminates the need for the support
ring, and your walls are supported by the poles at the top and stakes at
the bottom. Note that both of the round pavilions I saw were small in
floor area. They seemed to be limited by the design of the supporting
I suspect that often artists found it easier to illustrate "sided"
pavilions as round. (or maybe the pavilions had many more sides that 8
making them look even more round).
I believe that either round or octagonal could have been possible in
period. In real life, I believe the octagonal design to be easier to
Generic Pavilion Suggestions - (regardless of design)
1. Think HARD about the setup and take down. Make this as easy as
possible. If it takes you three hours to set up your pavilion, you are
less likely to want to use it.
2. Keep pole length manageable. Our longest pole length is 8 foot. For
the longer pole requirements, we use sections poles that are put together
using a metal sleeve. (make sure the sleeve is long enough to support the
joint well). It will make transport much easier.
3. Think about the advantages of attached walls versus walls that are
separate. (Separate walls may be more versatile and easier to clean, but
usually require more setup time.) Everyone seems to have their own
4. If you do go with detachable walls, make sure there is LOTS of overlap
at the top where your dagging is. (I recommend at least 6 inches). You
will thank yourself on that windy, rainy night when the rain does NOT blow
into your pavilion.
5. Use pretreated canvas!! You cannot match the waterproofing of a
pretreated canvas, no matter how much Thompson's waterseal you use. (Also,
remember waterproofed canvas is more flammable, so do be careful)
There are a few mail-order sources for different types of canvas if you
find your local fabric store too pricey.
6. Flare the walls of your pavilion, regardless of the design. If you are
making a square or rectangular design, you will have to 'miter' the corners
(i.e., add a triangular section) to allow for the flared walls. What this
means is that if your pavilion is 12 x 12 (like one of ours), your
effective floor section is, say, 16 x 16 (flaring 2 feet per side). This
will give you more usable area, and keep the rain off a little better.
REMEMBER TO INCLUDE THE ADDED LENGTH WHEN CALCULATING YOUR WALL LENGTHS!!
(A little trigonometry never hurt anyone!)
7. Reinforce the grommet holes with added layers of canvas or even leather
sewn down. This gives the grommet more to hold onto. Sewing down a small
cross section for the grommet location also distributes the loading on the
8. Use overlapping seams for your construction. (like on your blue jeans).
It sounds like a lot of work, but it is worth it.
You will probably spend several hundred dollars before and many hours on
this before you are through. Do it right, and you will have a pavilion
that will serve you well for years.
Umm...I guess that's enough babbling for now.
If you have additional questions, drop me a line at
Maureen_Martinez at us.dell.com.
MKA Maureen Martinez
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Subject: Re: Medivial Pavilions
Author: ansteorra at eden.com at Dell_UNIX
Date: 2/19/96 1:50 PM
I have been researching the subject of medivial pavilions to prepare to
design an build one of my own. So far I seem to find details on round
pavilions, square pavilions, and rectangular pavilions. But I was thinking
of making an octangonal pavilion. So are octagonal pavilions period?
Should I build one any way? Would it realy matter? (except to the
police?)I mean it's not that hard to convert an octagonal design into a round
Other questions: I have seen designs that use a center pole and designs
that use a frame. Can anyone relate experiences that would indicate that
one method is prefered over the other?
Of course any other input is apprieciated.
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