Putting foot in mouth

Pug Bainter pug at pug.net
Thu Feb 27 10:47:52 PST 1997


> All these opinions are MY OWN and do not necessarily reflect those of
> my Significant Other, my Laurel, my Friends or my Group!!!!!

But, But, You're no fun. *wink*

> But then none of us has addictive personalities do we;)

Not me. Honest! *grin*

> And for the record... I'm one of the ones that has had a major problem
> with the ad hoc publication of CERTIAN things on the internet.

The question comes down to how to deal with it, and what things *should*
be on the net and what shouldn't. We are now working on that.
Unfortunately Corporate hasn't given us their guidelines so we're in new
territory here that is very controversial.

> We don't just live in the SCA... we live in the real world.

All too true for some of us. Others it's not so true. *smile*

> It is just common sense not to put your home address out to all commers

I'm sorry, but I feel officers should have an USmail address posted, be
it their home address, a volunteer's address or a PO Box. Official
channels are still official channels. We have to communicate through
them. A workaround might be to only post Society names without mundane
names. *shrug*

> especially associated
> with a group that is known for its principles of trust and honour.(or
> conversley thought to be an "evil occult organization")

So because someone might take advantage of us or burn our house down we
should hide? That might happen any day of the week in some places. Making
your friends, neighbors, church, work, etc., know what you do and what
it's about is a great educational tool for stopping this from happening
to you and others. If on the other hand, you pack and run off in quiet,
don't tell them what your doing and why, etc., they have cause to think
you are up to no good.

> I actually
> believe that the event information should be on the internet MINUS the
> physical location.

At this point, it is up to every group to post their own event
information on their own server. If they don't have a site, no one finds
out about it on the net. This only hurts the groups by not encouraging
attendance to their events. Those groups who are borderline have even
greater need of population growth, IMHO.

> I WANT information
> about the SCA on the NET, but we must use COMMON SENSE in content and
> format.

I'm sorry, but common sense isn't very common. Common sense tells me
that if I am in fear for my life, not to publish my address/phone number
*anywhere*, even in a limited circulation. Common sense tells me that
officers of a group need to have their information published for people
to contact them. Common sense tells me that growth within a group is
good, and stagnation is bad. This isn't your or other folks' common
sense though.

> I am NOT saying that we have to FEAR the bad things that could and do
> happen JUST that we can't ignore that they DO happen and we should be
> AWARE of them and if possible take PRECAUTION. 

But how does not publishing information on the net stop this? As you
pointed out, the bad apples are already among us so why not try to
gather more good apples?

> The SCA is a place where we go to play and relax (as well as learn) I just
> don't want it to end up like the rest of the world. 

We can't help that unless we are willing to stop those people who do
wrong against us. We don't do this by hiding our faces from the net. For
a society that prides itself on honor, there are a lot of dishonorable
and intolerable things being overlooked and ignored by those who are
supposed to be more "honorable".

Ciao,

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