mark_harris at quickmail.sps.mot.com
Tue Jan 21 12:23:18 PST 1997
Greetings unto Chari from Stefan li Rous,
>I have chose a Germanic persona from late period and I am having a heck of a
>time trying to get all the background data to get a name approved. I have
>been to several libraries....and now Im trying online.
Take a look at this file in the PERSONAS section of my SCA Rialto Files:
names-msg (54K) 11/14/96 Name sources, naming practices.
I have pasted two messages from the file that might prove the most useful
to you below.
The file can be found with the rest of my files at:
From: b.scott at bscott.async.csuohio.edu (Brian M. Scott)
Subject: Re: German Names
Date: 4 Jul 1996 05:15:31 GMT
Organization: Cleveland State University
In article <4rb7es$80n at panix.com>, mittle at panix.com (Arval d'Espas Nord)
>Greetings from Arval! Rossilin von Hohenzollern suggested:
>> Tell your friend to start with a book entitled
>> A Catelog of Persons named in German Heroic Poetry
>> this is an excellent source with dates and clear refrences.
>Is this a book of names used by real people, which also appeared in poetry,
>or is it just a catalogue of names from poetry? If it is the latter, then
>it must be used with great caution as a source of names for the Society.
>Some cultures in our period did name their children from some kinds of
>literature, but as a general rule, one cannot assume that a name used in
>period literature was also used by real people.
Arval's concern is well-placed, but in this case the problem is small.
Gillespie (the author) generally includes notes on actual use of the
names in question. Opening the book at random I find under HERDEGEN
a heading 'pn', for 'personal name', at which we are told that the name
is found in one or more 9th c. German sources, with a reference to two
of the classic collections of early Germanic personal names. In general
one need only make sure that Gillespie notes actual use of the name
outside of literature. (It's not a bad idea also to note the dates of
that usage, of course!)
From: "E. L. Wimett" <SILVERDRAGON at mail.charleston.net>
Subject: Re: German names
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 21:03:20 -0700
Organization: Silver Dragon Company
Clare West wrote:
> We do have another book by the same author:
> Mittelhochdeutsches Namenbuch nach schlesischen Quellen : ein Denkmal d.
> is that any good?
It is actually better for the purposes of period documentation.
"Mittelhochdeutsches" means "Middle High German" and any name from Middle
High German is by definition period. . .
Barony of Bryn Gwlad
markh at risc.sps.mot.com
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