What do their arms look like?

[Baronman at aol.com]

In a message dated 97-05-16 07:58:54 EDT, you write:

>While I certainly agree with the basic thrust of Perronnelle's
>remarks, a couple of those older coats are exemplars of good,
>simple, elegant heraldry.

Simple is always better- case in point- I wanted birds and stars and lots of
colors on my device, took two and a half years to get it passed-  Wife wanted
a blue thingy with a gold wrappy and a couple three or four shamrocks- I said
it was too simple- never pass.  Start to finish -five months-  Did I feel
stupid

 Baron Bors of Lothian
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  Par Deu, bel sire, cist est de ae vostre lin,
  Et si mangue un grant braun porcin
  Et a dous traitz beit un cester de vin.
  Ben dure guete deit il rendre a sun veisin.