ANST - Re: ansteorra V1 #1436

Clarence & Lynn Bell lynnb at wtrt.net
Thu Jun 18 23:24:52 PDT 1998


To all care to listen to an old Celtic Proverb paraphrased:

SCA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

If you don"t have a heart and mind open enough to embrace us "Complete as
we are" and "deal" with what ever occurs as we all do or at least make a
sincere attempt to understand us and be one of us, then why waste your time
with us at all.  In order to live sanely, one must dream,     "Love the
dream then live it,"          I have been serving the Imperium for over 20
years.  I still dream of their being at a Tournement between all the
Reining Monarchs on a yearly basis.  One month would selected.  The event
would the be held annually.  Wouldn't that be something

Thank you for indulgence,
Lord Llywelyn ap Meriadudd of Gwynenedd
"Still ticking after all these years"

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> Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 12:00 AM
> 
> 
> ansteorra            Friday, June 19 1998            Volume 01 : Number
1436
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> 
>     ANST - Finding what you are looking for
>     Re: ANST - Dying on the field
>     Re: ANST - Newcomers & the SCA
>     Re: ANST - awards & peasants & peers, oh my
>     Re: ANST - It's what YOU make of it!
>     Re: ANST - Brass Hats (was awards & peasants & peers)
>     Re: ANST - Shooting from the Hip
>     ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Make it better
>     Re: ANST - Not period, but OHHH are these good![Fwd: FW:   Cookie
Recipe]
>     Re: ANST - Make it better
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     ANST - Re: Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     ANST - Virtual Scribe
>     Re: ANST - Re: Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     ANST - mottos
>     ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     ANST - ANST-shooting from the hip
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
>     Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
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> 
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:31:47 EDT
> From: Mararede at aol.com
> Subject: ANST - Finding what you are looking for
> 
> I said I wouldn't do this; I lied. I find that I have something to add to
the
> current discussion about Joel Schumacher's comments; for whatever it is
worth:
> 
> 1. In or out of period, in and out of this Game, knighthood is a
life-time
> title.
> 
> 2. I have found that I usually find what I am looking for-- If I expect
to
> find back-biting and nasty gossip, I can. If a want the company of good
people
> at a good bardic circle, I can find it. Likewise filk and bawdy. If I go
> expecting to have a good time, I can. If I am stand-offish and don't
speak, I
> receive same.
> 
> 3. As someone else said, tacky people are everywhere. I have been in
PTO's,
> Friends of the Library, church groups. People are people, and people are
> human.
> 
> 4. I firmly believe that people get the government they deserve. If you
don't
> like it, change it. The only way to do that is to join the organization
and
> participate.
> 
> 5. If you don't like trash, don't do trash. If it's not honourable or
> chivalrous, don't say it. Or at least don't say it where people can hear.
If
> you must blow off steam, do it in private. And remember the thing about
tent
> walls. . . . One of the worst experiences of my life was at an event
where I
> went to the privy and overheard someone in a tent screaming about why
they
> should not have made "that ***** a Laurel". 
> 
> 6. I may not agree with your opinions, but (to paraphrase), I will fight
to
> the death to defend your right to have and express them.
> 
> This horse is dead; I'll not beat it anymore.
>                                                     Mara (Barony of
Elfsea)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:35:39 EDT
> From: PKieferjr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: ANST - Dying on the field
> 
> In a message dated 98-06-17 22:01:26 EDT, you write:
> 
> << One of the first rules of fighting: Never parry with your face! >>
> 
> No, that's Tivar's second rule of rapier combat.  His first rule is: 
Never
> rush Tivar while he carries a dagger.
> 
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden  (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 16:41:13 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Newcomers & the SCA
> 
> Modius wrote:
> <warning this has been edited !>
> > To these newcomers The SCA is about Romance and Chivalry.  Newcomers'
> > eyes are like childrens', wide and absorbing everything.  I do not
> > condone hiding truth.  Just mixing common sense in with normal rules of
> > polite and refined behavior.
> > We are all Stewards of the Society.  Each and every one of us.  From
> > Lord to Laurel, from First Knight to First Fight.  We are the SCA now
to
> > these new gentles.  We are Heralds, the Fighters, the Artisans, the
> > Bards, the Troll keepers.  We are the chills evoked from Avatar's
music,
> > the groans of fulfilled pleasure from Marin's feasts, the well timed
> > slot-shots of Alaric, the elegance of Aubrey's Doublet, the Belly laugh
> > from Finnegin's Irish Tale, the absence felt by Riccardo's passing.
> > We are ALL part of this living history known as the SCA in Ansteorra. 
> > We ARE the SCA to these newcomers.
> 
> VIVAT!!!! This is what I see and hear in my head, while my flying fingers
> try to keep up!  Remember what, why, and how your first foray into the
> SCA felt like.  If we didn't like it, we wouldn't still be hanging around
> after all these years!  We cherish the old "legends", but WE are the
> new, and on, and on, and on................................
> I admit it, I'm an incurable romantic, but I'm also too much of a social
> realist to think we're perfect.  'Cause brothers and sisters, we ain't!
> But, if those who are new to the SCA, see us warts and all, and still
> want to play anyway, even better.  All it takes is a couple of minutes
> to change someones impression of you, or the group as a whole, for
> better or worse.  I would hope that we would all strive to make it the
> better impression.
> Thanks Modius, for reminding all of us why we're here!
> 
> Baroness Caterina
> Bryn Gwlad
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:47:30 EDT
> From: PKieferjr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: ANST - awards & peasants & peers, oh my
> 
> In a message dated 98-06-18 00:00:49 EDT, you write:
> 
> << > I heard--that the total came to some 1100 odd persons through the
>  > gate.
>  
>  Okay...hmmm...my memory is at times as firm as cottage cheese (play
Trivial
>  Pursuit with me one day and you'll see what I mean), but I could have
sworn
> that
>  I was standing next to Edwin when the autocrat told him the total at the
gate
>  and it was around 850-950.
>   >>
> 
> Okay, I know how many were at the gate......
> 
> 
> 
> .....they were ALL at the gate, at one time or another (including me).
> 
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
> 
> (Okay, so my humor needs work sometimes.  Haven't you been off your feed
on
> occasion?)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:53:38 -0700
> From: "Timothy A. McDaniel" <tmcd at crl.com>
> Subject: Re: ANST - It's what YOU make of it!
> 
> Ulrica climbed on her soapbox to opine about SCA membership.
> > I feel the same way here that I do about people who gripe
> > about the government but don't vote.
> 
> I don't see the analogy to the SCA.  SCA paid membership does not give
> you general voting rights.  (Now, the SCA requires membership to
> become an officer, and an officer may have some say in how things are
> done in their location and field.  Also, only paid members are polled
> for (just as a random example) principality establishment, name, and
> arms.  Those are limited cases.  We do not vote for the Board of
> Directors or any other officials, and we do not have referenda on
> laws or budgets.)
> 
> As for "people who have BIG opinions, but haven't the sense of right
> to become a member of said organization": I see no problems at all
> with having opinions, for Heaven's sake!  Nor even with expressing
> them without being a paid member.  I have strong opinions about lots
> of organizations -- for a few examples, the Boy Scouts of America, the
> Roman Catholic Church, and the government of Russia -- and I'll even
> express those opinions, yet I am not and I have never been a member
> (or citizen) of those groups.
> 
> As for "right" (in the sense of morality or ethics) for being a member
> ... I've been up those stairs too many times, and I have some work to
> do at the moment.  If someone else wants to argue the negative, please
> do.  Briefly: some of us still distrust the Corporation.  Some of us
> "vote with our dollars".  Some of us don't see the benefits to
> ourselves and to Ansteorra to SCA Inc. membership.  (Ansteorra gets
> only Black Star subscription money, which is roughly the cost of the
> Black Star.  Everything else the Corporation keeps.  Some believe that
> TI is not worth the money -- Duke Cariadoc for one.)
> 
> Daniel de Lincolia
> - -- 
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>     if that fail, tmcd at austin.ibm.com is my work account.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:04:39 EDT
> From: PKieferjr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: ANST - Brass Hats (was awards & peasants & peers)
> 
> In a message dated 98-06-18 14:57:57 EDT, you write:
> 
> << > TuhTahl wrote:
>  > Of course "Corwin" and "low key" are rarely found in close
proximity...
>  
>  Touche'!!  He got ya Corey!!  I suppose I WAS mixing my metaphors!
>  Baroness Caterina (snicker, snicker) >>
> 
> 
> What kind of batter do you use?
> 
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:08:38 EDT
> From: PKieferjr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: ANST - Shooting from the Hip
> 
> In a message dated 98-06-18 15:12:11 EDT, you write:
> 
> << > Aquilanne wrote:
>  > heehee (loud stage whisper)-- "she's really just a big ol' teddybear!!
But
>  > don't tell anyne, It's A Secret!"
>  
>  One of these days we need to get together for a nice, cool, something
>  to drink, and dare people to brave a "gauntlet of wit".  She who garners
>  the most groaning, pained expressions wins!! (actually I think we'd win
>  either way, just tormenting folks!)   What say?  Could be more fun than 
>  mere mortals are allowed to have!
> 
> What?  No contest for us men?  Shame on you!  I thought we did away with
that
> sexist thing a long time ago!
> 
> (smile)
>  
> << Baroness Caterina (feeling like a smarty-pants at the moment)
>  Bryn Gwlad
>   >>
> 
> Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
> 
> (Are you wearing them?)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 18:51:01 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> > Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden wrote:
> > What?  No contest for us men?  Shame on you!  I thought we did away
with that
> > sexist thing a long time ago!
> 
> I was merely suggesting that for *our* personal entertainment, Mistress
Aquilanne
> and I spend an undecided period of time exchanging witicisms.  Besides, I
am
> Amazon, and we are very picky as to who gets to sit in on those sort of 
> entertainments.  Not to mention the fact that she is a veritable
"Mistress of the Pun "
> and I would learn more of her art!!  And why do we have to have any boys
around
> anywho?
> 
> Baroness Caterina (still feeling like a smarty-pants)
> Bryn Gwlad
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:01:41 -0500
> From: Gunnora Hallakarva <gunnora at bga.com>
> Subject: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> Greetings, All
> I think it would be interesting to put together a file containing the
> mottos of the varios peers and nobles - perhaps on the Ansteorran
Heraldry
> pages, or in Stefan li Rous's Florilegium files.  
> 
> I don't recall what rank one has to have in order to have a motto, but
for
> myself and I'm sure others, it would be interesting and very
> insight-provoking to know what various Ansteorran worthies have selected
as
> their mottos.
> 
> Here are a few that I have:
> 
> Mistress Gunnora Hallakarva
> "Sisu" 
> (Finnish - not directly translatable to English but meaning, "heart,
> courage, indominatable spirit")
> 
> Sir Hrothgar of Farley
> Aptas Impudens
> (Latin, "Acceptably rude")
> 
> Mistress Aeruin ni Aerin
> Ire ubi volo, insidere ubi possum, volare ubi debeo.
> (Latin - Go where I will, roost where I may, fly when I must)
> 
> H.L. Damaris of Greenhill
> Quam Probis, Quam Fides
> (Latin - "Be as good as your sworn word")
> 
> Duchess Mikaela of Monmouthshire
> Usque Comissare
> (Latin - "Party on!")
> 
> Sir Alexis LaBouche
> Asseverum Justiciam
> (Latin - "Insisting on Justice")
> 
> 
> Wæs Þu Hæl (Waes Thu Hael)
> 
> ::GUNNORA::
> 
> Gunnora Hallakarva
> Herskerinde
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Ek eigi visa þik hversu oðlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na
Hersis-Aðal
> (Ek eigi thik hversu odhlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na
Hersis-Adhal)
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:49:25 +0000
> From: "Helen and Bennie Brown" <browns at mail.intplsrv.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Make it better
> 
> > Subject:       Re: ANST - awards & peasants & peers, oh my
> > Date:          Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:08:05 -0500 (CDT)
> > From:          "Pug Bainter" <pug at pug.net>
> 
> > I hope that you are able to get through this part of your growth within
> > the Society and get to the part where you enjoy it for the things you
> > do and not the things that others do wrong.
> > Phelim "Pug" Gervase
> 
> YES YES YES, this is what I lamely was trying to say in my post about 
> the SCA is what you make of it.  I went through the same stage (if 
> you read my post closely, you'll find that line).  Every event I do 
> make it to, there is "someone" who is not happy with things the way 
> they are.  If they stick around a little longer, they usually find 
> their niche and get happier or at least learn to deal with what they 
> were unhappy about before.  Did I make myself clear? 
> I gripe too, when things aren't going my way, but I try to confine it 
> to "my" circle of friends (read close acquaintenances who realise I'm 
> just having a bad day).  If newcomers are around or people I don't 
> know very well, I "try" not to gripe.
> But the best way to make it "better" is to pitch in and do it.  Talk 
> up the good things, do the good things, help with the good things and 
> it WILL BE BETTER FOR ALL OF US.  LIVE THE DREAM, don't just gripe 
> 'cause somebody didn't do what you thought was right.
> In Service to the Dream the best way I know how,
> 
> 
> Helen Brown
> HL Hellen Bales MacQueene
> Stronghold of FalconRidge, Kingdom of Ansteorra
> browns at intplsrv.net
> Altus, Oklahoma
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:57:37 EDT
> From: ravensmk at juno.com (Sandy M Koenig)
> Subject: Re: ANST - Not period, but OHHH are these good![Fwd: FW:  
Cookie Recipe]
> 
> Didn't think of that.   Thanks
> R
> 
> >Drain the cottage cheese through a fine sieve or cheese cloth or use
> >Ricotta.
> >
> >Bear
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 19:42:58 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Make it better
> 
> > HL Hellen Bales MacQueene wrote:
> > YES YES YES, this is what I lamely was trying to say in my post about 
> > the SCA is what you make of it.  I went through the same stage (if
> > you read my post closely, you'll find that line).  Every event I do
> > make it to, there is "someone" who is not happy with things the way
> > they are.  If they stick around a little longer, they usually find
> > their niche and get happier or at least learn to deal with what they 
> > were unhappy about before.  Did I make myself clear?
> 
> I didn't think it was lame the first time!  But everyone has had
> VERY constructive things to say!  It's been most pleasurable
> to read postings of this sort.  I think we all enjoy a good debate,
> but isn't it wonderful to see through each others' eyes once in a
> while?
> 
> Baroness Caterina (who has an enraptured smile on her face right now)
> Bryn Gwlad
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:45:17 EDT
> From: Mstrsmara at aol.com
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> Gunnora
> 
> My motto is 
> 
> "Don't get caught" 
> 
> If anyone can translate that into Latin......I would welcome it!
> 
> Mara
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:09:21 +0000
> From: "Fox Anton Purtill" <blackfox at flash.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> House Starblade's motto is:
> 
> "If you can't heal it, kill it."
> 
> (It's on the web site)
> 
> - ------------------------------------------
> 
>  Fox Purtill *and* Karin Hoijer-Purtill
>      House Starblade - 512-821-3205
>         www.flash.net/~blackfox
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:14:56 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Angela Bellavance <bellavan at rice.edu>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Gunnora Hallakarva wrote:
> 
> > I think it would be interesting to put together a file containing the
> > mottos of the varios peers and nobles - perhaps on the Ansteorran
Heraldry
> > pages, or in Stefan li Rous's Florilegium files.  
> 
> It is not an SCA motto, but rather belongs to my mundane family (the
> Gagne-Bellavance family).  I hope to one day make it my SCA motto.
> Anyway, it's :
> 
> "De bon vouloir a servir" (French)
> or "Of good will to serve"
> 
> Just in case you were interested. :)
> 
> Cheers, Angela
> 
> _______
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:51:10 -0500
> From: D Whitford <horoun at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Laury Torrence wrote:
> > 
> > > Lord Johann Kiefer Hayden wrote:
> > > What?  No contest for us men?  Shame on you!  I thought we did away
with that
> > > sexist thing a long time ago!
> > 
> > I was merely suggesting that for *our* personal entertainment, Mistress
Aquilanne
> > and I spend an undecided period of time exchanging witicisms.  Besides,
I am
> > Amazon, and we are very picky as to who gets to sit in on those sort of
> > entertainments.  Not to mention the fact that she is a veritable
"Mistress of the Pun "
> > and I would learn more of her art!!  And why do we have to have any
boys around
> > anywho?
> > 
> > Baroness Caterina (still feeling like a smarty-pants)
> > Bryn Gwlad
> To serve drinks and fan you of course(jeez keep up}
> Horoun
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:05:55 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Timothy A. McDaniel" <tmcd at crl.com>
> Subject: ANST - Re: Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Laury Torrence wrote:
> > And why do we have to have any boys around anywho?
> 
> Indeed not.  If you have a surplus, please forward them to Gio or me.
> 
> Yours in servicing,
> Daniel de Lincolia
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:42:22 -0500
> From: Chris and Elisabeth Zakes <moondrgn at bga.com>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> At 07:01 PM 6/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Greetings, All
> >I think it would be interesting to put together a file containing the
> >mottos of the varios peers and nobles - perhaps on the Ansteorran
Heraldry
> >pages, or in Stefan li Rous's Florilegium files.  
> >
> >I don't recall what rank one has to have in order to have a motto, but
for
> >myself and I'm sure others, it would be interesting and very
> >insight-provoking to know what various Ansteorran worthies have selected
as
> >their mottos.
> 
> 
> Mine is
> "Patientia et persistancia
> (Latin, Patience and persistence)
> 
> Aethelyan's is 
> "Decadence is its own reward"
> (I'm afraid i don't have the Latin version handy)
> 
> 	-Tivar Moondragon
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:17:20 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Earlier I wrote (edited version):
> >  And why do we have to have any boys around anywho?
> 
> To which Horoun replied:
> > To serve drinks and fan you of course(jeez keep up}
> 
> Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> are can hang out then.......................
> I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> 
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 00:17:09 EDT
> From: Mararede at aol.com
> Subject: ANST - Virtual Scribe
> 
> "Vivat"  and Thank You, Pug, for all your hard work.    Mara (Elfsea)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:20:58 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Re: Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny"
afternoon
> 
> And again!
> > And why do we have to have any boys around anywho?
> 
> To which Daniel de Lincolia replied:
> > Indeed not.  If you have a surplus, please forward them to Gio or me.
> 
> Ahhhh, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel.........we NEVER have enough in Amazon
> camp!!  But if you promise to behave, you can be a cup-holder!!
> 
> Baroness Caterina (snigger, smirk)
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:15:38 -0500
> From: "Casey&Coni" <cjw at vvm.com>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> Juuuust back from Lilies...
> 
> And for posterity's sake, my motto is:
> 
> "Melio dare quam accipere."
> 
> Better to give than to receive.
> 
> Ritter Dieterich Kempenich von Eltz
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:25:47 -0500
> From: D Whitford <horoun at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Laury Torrence wrote:
> > 
> > Earlier I wrote (edited version):
> > >  And why do we have to have any boys around anywho?
> > 
> > To which Horoun replied:
> > > To serve drinks and fan you of course(jeez keep up}
> > 
> > Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> > are can hang out then.......................
> > I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> > Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> 
> Its cabana boy(what DID you do with your script?)
> Helping her with her blonde moment?
> Horoun
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:27:03 +0000
> From: kimberly at mail.topher.net
> Subject: Re: ANST - Collecting Mottos
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> A minor clarification about Mikaela's motto:
> > Duchess Mikaela of Monmouthshire
> > Usque Comissare
> > (Latin - "Party on!")
> 
> I did ask Gunnora for a Latin translation of 'party on' so I could 
> include it in Mikaela's duchy scroll.  (What can I say?   It 
> seemed appropriate, and it's way more subtle in Latin than in 
> English. )  However, her chosen motto is 'My friends in June.'
> 
> Thyra
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:30:48 -0500
> From: sach at lcc.net
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Dearest Caterina...	
> Knowing you sober AND intoxicated I can honestly say that you don't need
> another hurricane and when are you not having a blond moment? :)
> 
> Dearest Horoun...
> I honestly can't see you serving ANYONE drinks...but you should have seen
> the picture in my mind when I tried!!  :)
> 
> Affectionately to you both and in service to the dream,
> 
> Amy
> At 11:17 PM 6/18/98 PDT, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Earlier I wrote (edited version):
> >>  And why do we have to have any boys around anywho?
> >
> >To which Horoun replied:
> >> To serve drinks and fan you of course(jeez keep up}
> >
> >Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> >are can hang out then.......................
> >I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> >Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> >
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:35:26 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: ANST - mottos
> 
> Hmmm....I'm currently torn between two, and haven't quite
> decided which one.  I'll keep track of the commentary.
> 
> No latin (or possibly french) translations yet.
> 
> "black of heart, light of spirit"
> 
> "create beauty, yet celebrate darkness"
> 
> 
> or totally in jest, yet somehow more me:
> "the devil made me do it"
> 
> Baroness Caterina
> Bryn Gwlad
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:41:49 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Slightly later I replied:
> > Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> > are can hang out then.......................
> > I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> > Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> 
> To which mister smarty pants Horoun replies:
> > Its cabana boy(what DID you do with your script?)
> > Helping her with her blonde moment?
> 
> Oh good grief!!  I've got last weeks script!!  I think
> I need my roots redone. (thinking of Gloria Swanson in
> Sunset Strip)
> 
> 
> Baroness (getting sillier by the minute) Caterina
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:44:15 -0500
> From: D Whitford <horoun at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> sach at lcc.net wrote:
> > 
> > Dearest Caterina...
> > Knowing you sober AND intoxicated I can honestly say that you don't
need
> > another hurricane and when are you not having a blond moment? :)
> > 
> > Dearest Horoun...
> > I honestly can't see you serving ANYONE drinks...but you should have
seen
> > the picture in my mind when I tried!!  :)
> > 
> > Affectionately to you both and in service to the dream,
> > 
> > Amy
> 
> Amy who? Hmm?
> Horoun
> > >
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:47:48 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> > Dearest Caterina...
> > Knowing you sober AND intoxicated I can honestly say that you don't
need
> > another hurricane and when are you not having a blond moment? :)
> >
> > Dearest Horoun...
> > I honestly can't see you serving ANYONE drinks...but you should have
seen
> > the picture in my mind when I tried!!  :)
> 
> Hey!  I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  I've only been blonde
for
> t****h*****i****s long (need a re-touch!), SO THERE!!!!!
> I somehow KNEW you'd chime in sometime!!  Hey Horoun, I think you can
> hand over the "smarty-pants" award to Miss Amy!!
> 
> Baroness Cat-er (i really could use a hurricane)ina
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:51:41 -0500
> From: sach at lcc.net
> Subject: ANST - ANST-shooting from the hip
> 
> Horoun
> 
> You may not remember me that well...but I've met you on occasion at
events,
> Raven's Fort fighter practice, and at Zork's house. I usually don't talk
to
> people the first few times that I see them...don't like to offend anyone
so
> I wait and see how they act and take things.  That usually makes me
> forgetable.
> 
> I'm kinda overweight, 5'3" and sometimes I wear glasses.  I'm 21 but look
> either younger or older...depending on how I feel.
> 
> Amy
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 23:53:44 PDT
> From: "Laury Torrence" <J-LTorrence at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> > > Affectionately to you both and in service to the dream,
> > >
> > > Amy
> >
> > Amy who? Hmm?
> > Horoun
> 
> >From Thunder in Ravensfort.......I'm afraid I'm being a *bad*
> influence on her!
> Cat
> 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:53:54 -0500
> From: sach at lcc.net
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> But Cat you know that I have to think REALLY hard for comebacks!! 
Somehow
> it's just not as funny 2 hours later.  All that stress on my brain
> cell.(No, that is not a typo)
> 
> Amy
> 
> At 11:47 PM 6/18/98 PDT, you wrote:
> >
> >> Dearest Caterina...
> >> Knowing you sober AND intoxicated I can honestly say that you don't
need
> >> another hurricane and when are you not having a blond moment? :)
> >>
> >> Dearest Horoun...
> >> I honestly can't see you serving ANYONE drinks...but you should have
seen
> >> the picture in my mind when I tried!!  :)
> >
> >Hey!  I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  I've only been blonde
for
> >t****h*****i****s long (need a re-touch!), SO THERE!!!!!
> >I somehow KNEW you'd chime in sometime!!  Hey Horoun, I think you can
> >hand over the "smarty-pants" award to Miss Amy!!
> >
> >Baroness Cat-er (i really could use a hurricane)ina
> >
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:53:53 -0500
> From: D Whitford <horoun at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Laury Torrence wrote:
> > 
> > Slightly later I replied:
> > > Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> > > are can hang out then.......................
> > > I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> > > Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> > 
> > To which mister smarty pants Horoun replies:
> > > Its cabana boy(what DID you do with your script?)
> > > Helping her with her blonde moment?
> > 
> > Oh good grief!!  I've got last weeks script!!  I think
> > I need my roots redone. (thinking of Gloria Swanson in
> > Sunset Strip)
> > 
> > Baroness (getting sillier by the minute) Caterina
> 
> BTW does this job have a 401k or any other benefits
> Horoun(investing in the future)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:56:26 -0500
> From: sach at lcc.net
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> I was bad before I met you Cat...just not as vocal.  Of course between
you
> and the Swein...well what can I say...if it's you or me then better you
> than me.  :)
> 
> Amy
> 
> At 11:53 PM 6/18/98 PDT, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> > Affectionately to you both and in service to the dream,
> >> >
> >> > Amy
> >>
> >> Amy who? Hmm?
> >> Horoun
> >
> >From Thunder in Ravensfort.......I'm afraid I'm being a *bad*
> >influence on her!
> >Cat
> >
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:56:31 -0500
> From: D Whitford <horoun at swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> > I somehow KNEW you'd chime in sometime!!  Hey Horoun, I think you can
> > hand over the "smarty-pants" award to Miss Amy!!
> 
> Then what would I wear?
> Horoun(need to tan legs before giving up "smarty pants")
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:59:46 -0500
> From: sach at lcc.net
> Subject: Re: ANST - Was - Shooting from the Hip/now a "punny" afternoon
> 
> Horoun,
> Have you EVER known a cabana boy with anything other than fringe
benefits?
> And from what I understand occasionally they even get paid extra to
receive
> those benefits.
> 
> Amy
> At 11:53 PM 6/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Laury Torrence wrote:
> >> 
> >> Slightly later I replied:
> >> > Oh yeah!  I guess those fellas who know what their jobs
> >> > are can hang out then.......................
> >> > I'm claiming another "blonde" moment!
> >> > Baroness Caterina (oh pool boy! another hurricane plleeease!)
> >> 
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