ANST - awards(Deads not Words)

Bob Dewart gilli at seacove.net
Sat Jun 27 16:31:16 PDT 1998


My Lady,

I think it's extremely tacky for someone to put themself in for an award.
But they have to live themself not me.  Still, it doesn't make for a very
level playing feild, does it?


-----Original Message-----
From: debbie andrews <galiena at juno.com>
To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: ANST - awards(Deads not Words)


>I am sending this privately. I agree with you totally, I also, hate to
>think of the awards given out to people who do not "deserve" them, almost
>as much as I hate those who send themselves in for one OR have a friend
>send them in. Sort of "you wash my back I'll wash yours" type of thing.
>Believe me I know of one person who has done that. I have been known to
>cry at several Courts because of the "beauty" of the person receiving the
>award and  the dignity of the Crown.  Thank you for allowing me to have
>my say, and I hope to meet you someday.
>Ly. Galiena Gruienstien (soon to be Kingdom Hospitaler)
>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:13:33 -0500 "Bob Dewart" <gilli at seacove.net>
>writes:
>>I believe that people should be judged by their actions and not just
>>their
>>words alone. Listen to what they say, but see what they do.  They
>>might have
>>been just saying things to pull your chain.  The moto of an infantry
>>battalion I was in once best summed it up,"Deeds not Words".
>>
>>I would hate to think that an award recommendation was done for any
>>one who
>>didn't deserve it.  Again, "deserve it" is a judgement call on the
>>part of
>>the Crown based on what is in the award recommendation.  In most cases
>>"we"
>>never see every thing that a particular person may have done.  I truly
>>hope
>>that no one has flambusluded the Crown.
>>
>>Because of various reasons, I don't get to go to nearly as many events
>>as I
>>would like.  So I don't know nearly as many of the people as I would
>>like.
>>The last event I went to was Kings College.  And as with most events,
>>the
>>Crown gave some awards.  I didn't know any of them (well, I know Pug
>>now
>>sorta), but I appluaded and got teary eyed for each of them.  Every
>>thing
>>has a price; wheither it's money, time, effort or some intangable
>>thing like
>>attitude, etc. or a combination of things.  I'm sure everyone pays
>>their
>>price and then some.
>>
>>HL Gilbert Ost Westley "Gilli"
>>gilli at seacove.net
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: AuroraeB at aol.com <AuroraeB at aol.com>
>>To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>
>>Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 8:26 AM
>>Subject: Re: ANST - awards
>>
>>
>>>In a message dated 98-06-27 05:55:20 EDT, you write:
>>>
>>><<  I know someone
>>> personally who was kissing up to a Baroness just to get their AOA,
>>then
>>> griped because they hadn't gotten it. >>
>>>
>>>
>>>You know,
>>>
>>>Those who are into the SCA to gain some kind of reknown and "power"
>>are
>>often
>>>disappointed.  Those who are in it for the fun of just playing rarely
>>get
>>so
>>>disappointed.  I will play junior psychologist and say that I have
>>seen a
>>fair
>>>number of people who take the "power" they get in the SCA too far.  I
>>always
>>>wonder if it is because they feel that they lack control and power
>>and
>>reknown
>>>in the real world.
>>>
>>>I think some people need to wear a post-it note stuck to their
>>forehead
>>saying
>>>"It is only a hobby, it is NOT my life........."
>>>
>>>Awards are a good thing, but "expecting" them only sets oneself up
>>for a
>>lot
>>>of disappointment and jealousy.  I cannot tell you how many times I
>>have
>>been
>>>in court and heard somebody piss and moan that somebody else got the
>>award
>>>that they deserved.  And, then are usually the first ones to gush
>>>congratulations over the recipient.
>>>
>>>Such duplicity and sour grapes can kill the fun of it all.
>>>
>>>Tracy
>>>
>>>Tracy
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