ANST - Apology

Mitman, Rikki Rikki.Mitman at
Mon Mar 9 07:10:48 PST 1998

My lord, with all due respect, I must take issue with your statements. Sex
is a private matter, as is personal hygiene. While I certainly don't hold
that all discussion of such topics should be suppressed, I would argue that
there are appropriate places for such discussion, and a public forum is not
one. Education in matters of sex and hygiene is appropriately provided in
the home and, in some cases, in schools. And people who fail to take
precautions will not suddenly decide to do so because someone posts what
amounts to snickering, schoolboy humor on a news list.

Teleri ferch Pawl

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Pug Bainter [SMTP:pug at]
> Sent:	Monday, March 09, 1998 8:46 AM
> To:	ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject:	Re: ANST - Apology
> Mitman, Rikki said something that sounded like:
> > I also feel that discussions of personal hygiene
> > products, contraceptives, and other such items as have been included in
> the
> > "Gulf War lists" is vulgar and unnecessary in this context.
> I'm sorry, but I must disagree.
> Listing such items is a good idea in this day and age. (Although it was
> in jest.)
> We need to remember that casual sex is no longer safe, despite what the
> SCA is about. I would rather people only have sex with their lifemates,
> but the fact is it doesn't always happen. Because of this, I think it's
> a good idea to remind people to be safe instead of sorry. I'd rather
> people not come home with something they didn't go with because they
> didn't remember condoms. (Yeah, yeah, people can abstain, but lots don't.)
> As for personal hygiene, I think it's a good idea for everyone to
> practice it. Events, and probably even moreso wars, are not a place to
> forget this necessity.
> > Especially on a
> > list for a society that purports to uphold such concepts as honor,
> courtesy,
> > and chivalry.
> Where things should be hidden from view? I've never viewed this as a
> good way for sex nor drug education to be conducted. (Yes, I am a parent
> of a small child.)
> Ciao,
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