ANST - Regional identity...

[Dennis and Dory Grace]

Salut Cozyns,

Lyonel aisai.

In response to Aquilanne's--
>> To keep things simple, 1000 Eyes hosted the event and fronted the money.
>>  .... Since Uprising had become perceived as a Principality event, a small 
>> percentage (we usually did 10% to 15%) was donated directly to the
>Principality. 

'wolf says:
>this brings up a tangential but related thread ... "event identity" and
>"local autonomy".  
>
>say there is a local event that has been run totally locally,  and due to
>good  management and local support it becomes increasingly popular and
>profitable, but the  local's want to keep it as a local event.  
>
>how do you prevent principality / kingdom to "claim" that event (and a
>higher  percentage of the profits involved ????).  is this a price of
>belonging to a principality /  kingdom?  could this be considered a
>under-table "taxation" (for lack of better word).   are events required to
>"tithe" to kingdom / principality / both ???

As for a Principality or a Kingdom requiring tithing from non-Principality
or non-Kingdom events, this is specifically prohibited by Corpora,
paragraph VI.A.1.g.(4) which says

	No law may require members or branches to make donations to the
                    treasury of the realm. Laws which discuss voluntary
donations are
                    acceptable, as are those which mandate reasonable fees
for events and
                    services or discuss financial arrangements for the
realm's main events
                    sponsored by local branches.

I've never seen a case where a principality or kingdom "claimed" a local
event.  I believe such a move is really untenable.  I mean, think of it:
(1) King Gluteal-Cranium proclaims Steppes Warlord a Kingdom event, (2) the
people of Steppes disagree.  Now what happens?  Most likely, no one will
volunteer to run the recently conscripted event.  In other words, claiming
an event will just kill it, so what would be the point?

'wolf further claims:
>over the years have heard several threads (in various kingdoms) where folk
>were  bemoaning that their event's had been hijaacked from them (might have
>a few in the old  bbs archives)

Usually, I think this is just a matter of internal politics.  When we were
Baron and Baroness of One Thousand Eyes, people in other Artemisian groups
frequently expressed their opinion that Uprising was an Artemisian event.
I knew folks who resented this view.  After all, Thousand Eyes invented the
event, Thousand Eyes had always hosted the event, and Thousand Eyes did
most of the work to set up and run the event.  Still, the others were
correct in a sense.  Without help from the other groups we could neither
run nor afford to host Uprising.  We handled this matter, as Aquilanne
noted, by tracking actual volunteer person-hours.  After the base cost of
the event had been covered and a percentage donated to the Principality
(our choice, not a requirement), we split up the profits according to the
hours.

'wolf also notes:
>.. on social development
>
>i bring these up as a mirror of a change of perception that i have seen in
>many i speak  with from over the almost 25 years self has been associated
>with the SCA.  initially,  the focus was locally to the people you
>associated with.  this was a very intimate, very  personal level.  as
>groups eveloved that focus shifted to the higher organizational level  of
>barony .... focus began to shift away from personal allegences to
>heirarchical  allegiences.  as growth continued and groups "matured" this
>shifted to a higher  kingdom-centric level.  
>
>initially in this kingdom / principality there was much more a focus on the
>person.   probably due in part to the fact that it was a very
>celtic-oriented base.  whre trappings  and organization seemed much less
>important than the personal alliances each  created .. now it seems that
>the upper organizational echelons are more important  than the person and
>demand that the person subordinate themselves to it ... but then,  that's
>the pattern of buracracy, no?
>
>as this growth pattern evolved, self has noted a increasing level of
>alienation, burn-out,  dissatisfaction - especially in the older folk
>(many have admitted to me these are some of the reasons they are no longer
>here).  those that came in at later dates,  entered at these more mature
>social levels (for the most part) and never knew what  came before ... and
>even in those have seen pattern repeated as things evolved / grew  became
>increasingly complex.

Your analysis of bureaucratic complexity is textbook perfect, 'wolf, but I
don't believe we've reached the level you're talking about.  I've seen
little evidence that the hierarchy is more important than the individual in
Ansteorra.  If such *were* the case, however, then a principality might be
just the sort of neighborhood for you and your formerly burnt-out friends.
The Southern Region is gradually becoming a cozier, more interdependent
neighborhood.  If we create a principality, we'll be able to recognize that
neighborhood with a name and arms, with new traditions, customs, and
ceremonies.

But don't take my word for any of this, 'wolf, come on out to fighter
practice on Tuesday.  Or come on out to an event some time.

lo vostre por vos servir
Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace
Capitan, la guardia del baronia de Bryn Gwlad 



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