ANST - Re: [STEPS] Proposal for a fourth Peerage(long) (nl)

[jonwillowpel at juno.com]

In the past we have not put Rapier fighting under the Laurel because we
have been hoping for it to get put under knighthood or separate category
under the Chivalry. It is a fighting art. A long time ago my husband and
I had the choice of putting rapier fighting under the Laurel. Master
Tivar was voted into the Laurel and the Pelican for his work in the
rapier community. Duke Jonathan , then King Jonathan, gave him the choice
of what he wanted. Jonathan explained that if Rapier fighting was put
under the Laurel it would never be thought of as part of the Chivalry.
Master Tivar chose the Pelican. I feel this was the right decision even
today and hope in near future that rapier fighters will be recognize as
members of the Chivalry. ( As a historical note Duke Jonathan de Laufyson
was the king that signed in the first light fighting rules.
Duchess Willow de Wisp


On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:58:28 -0500 "maddie teller-kook" <meadhbh at io.com>
writes:
> Isobel,
> For a rapier fighter to be considered for a laurel, I (this is my 
> opinion)..
> would expect that person to be heavily involved in researching the 
> fighting
> style... teaching at king's colleges or other teaching venues, 
> writing
> papers; researching/making armor and clothing, weapons and other 
> related
> arts and sciences for that fighting style. And again, teaching this 
> to
> others. I would NOT consider someone who only wins tournaments.
> 
> Just my 2 cents,
> 
> Meadhbh
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG 
> [mailto:owner-ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG]On
> Behalf Of gptaylor
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:23 PM
> To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject: Re: ANST - Re: [STEPS] Proposal for a fourth Peerage(long) 
> (nl)
> 
> Oh...then when every Laurel I know comes up to me and says something 
> like,
> "DO
> SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST STAINED GLASS,"  I can tell them that I 
> fight
> rapier?
> Somehow...I don't think that they'll be convinced...  ;)
> 
> HL Isobel
> 
> cynthia j ley wrote:
> 
> > Very interesting. :)
> >
> > An Tir currently provides for Archery, Equestrian, and Fence under 
> the
> > Laurelate.
> >
> > I'm not sure that we need a fourth peerage inasmuch as we need to 
> figure
> > out where these categories fit.
> >
> >                                 respectfully yours,
> >
> >                                         Arlys, O.L.
> >
> > >I am putting together a proposal for a fourth peerage to be sent 
> to the
> > >SCA BOD for their January meeting. It will be for skill in the 
> related
> > >fields of non tournament martial activities, such as: Archery,
> > equestrian,
> > >fencing, thrown weapons and war combat. War combat would include:
> > Missile
> > >combat, siege engines, scouting, etc.
> >
> > 
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