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[Bob Dewart]

Greetings and Hi There,


I usually don't agree with Wolf.  However, this time I do.

Ok, so everything on both ends of the deal weren't totally corect.  Just
because you may have thought the actions inappropriate, doesn't make it
right for one to continue in that vain.

But  then, why should we be nicer to a new person than we are to some of our
older players?  I have noticed times when it appeared to be open season on
folks making comments, asking questions or suggesting things *not* in line
with the masses.

Gilli, dusting off his flame proof suit, looking for the feather.  Shoot
more arrows, you're bound to hit something.  To darken the skies with
Ansteorran arrows at Gulf War, someone must first make them.  I speak for no
one but myself.  My opinions are mine.  I am not a member of Middleford.
Void where prohibited.  Your mileage may vary.  No warrenty implied. :)

>> I tend to disagree with Ld. Pieter.  This is a valid
>> complaint and was not exaggerated...very straight forward
>> and matter of fact that the site was out of date and needed
>> help.  If people can't make a polite and legitimate complaint
>> about the SCA, then something is very, very wrong.
>
>unfortunately, typical scadian behaviour ... "rally around the flag
>and bash the neophyte".  any wonder why it's so hard to grow the
>organization and retain membership.  sure, *we* know from the inside
>that sca information is usually ou6t of date, incorrect, posted times
>mean nothing, etc (long standing matters that should be addressed),
>but a new person does not.  and the cop-out that they "should have
>called someone" dosn't hold water ... remember that the person stated
>they were new, and most new folks are hesitant to make such contacts
>... most need a few "observation" sessions before they'll approach
>people.
>
>lessons learned here ...
>
>1.  if you are supporting a online site that advertises critical
>group information (who, what, where), you have a *obligation* to
>either keep it current or take it down.  bad information is usually
>worse than no information.
>
>2. cut the neophytes some slack.  you killing your beloved
>organization a little bit more every time you stick your nose in the
>air and adopt the holier-than-thou, scadian-self-rightious attitudes
>that are all too common from people who have forgotten what it means
>to be a frustrated new-comer.
>
>3. the sca is not the be-all / end-all of the universe, you co-exist
>in other spheres you have no control over and are dependent upon
>them.  in this case, the web is *the* primary information source for
>the next generations that the organization needs to stay healthy.
>better to learn to use it, on it's terms and don't try to impose
>old-sca standards upon them (ie: the aceptance of out of date
>information) of make the idiotic statement that it dosn't matter (in
>any other corporate structure in the real world, write off the web as
>a irrelevent information source and where would you be?) ... as a
>corollary, don't rail at people for being frustrated when they run
>into the infamous "wall of lud" that this organization tries to erect
>around itself.
>
>the real loser in all the the organization as a whole, since it seems
>that several of the  self-rightous flag wavers who chose to chastise
>instead of listen and try to correct a standing problem have
>alienated and driven away yet another person interested enough to try
>to get involved and bring some new blood and energy into a slowly
>dieing organization.
>
>'wolf


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