[Ansteorra] re: What can we talk about (was Level 3...)

[Brian Martin]

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In response to Diarmaid's post:

My objection is with the culture of silence.  I am certain that both TE
Burke and Pendaran wrote with no motive other than what they saw as the best
intentions of the group as a whole.  I just disagree with them as to whether
keeping such things secret is, in fact, best.

>> Just to clarify, I didn't suggest that anything be kept a secret. In
stating that such discussions are best left off of >> the public boards, I
was referring to why the Crown chose to handle things as They did. I wasn't
referring to the
>> banishment. I should have stated that more clearly.

Personally, I don't know anything about this particular banishment. I don't
care anything about it.  It's irrelevant to me.  I see a problem in keeping
it another dirty little secret, which will probably be made worse by rumors
and gossip, rather than taking the opportunity to address it publicly, and
by doing so minimize any further impact it might have had.

>> As for the banishment itself, people such as the seneschal and the Crown
simply can not speak publicly about it
>> and I believe that I addressed that in saying:
	"Their Majesties have worked hard to be available to Their subjects
throughout this reign, but in most 	banishment cases, They must be
discreet and can not say much about what is going on. This is usually due to
respect for the individuals involved and not out of a desire to withhold
information."
>> I expected that people would have understood that to mean that officials
of the society - not the peerage, by the
>> way, but officials who are directly related to events - can not, for a
variety of reasons, talk about this. They are not
>> keeping this "a dirty little secret", but are prevented from talking
about it by rule, law or common decency. Think
>> for a minute; do you really think that the Crown has nothing better to
do, or are such petty people that they want
>> to keep a bunch of "dirty little" secrets from Their subjects? I don't
think so. (I don't mean to insinuate that
>> Diarmaid is making that accusation, I'm just stretching that statement to
make a point.)

If people weren't going to talk about these things, that would be one thing,
but realistically people ARE going to talk about them (especially now that
they've been told not to).  Wouldn't it be better to discuss things out in
the open, where information can be vetted and corrected?  That way, people
can see that it's really not an issue, except to the people involved.

>> Frankly I rather hoped and expected that people would have been
respectful enough to try to ignore any rumor
>> mongering, but perhaps that is too much to hope for. I will not
speculate, particularly on a public board, why the >> announcement of the
banishment was placed where it was in the Blackstar. Thus, I suggested that
those who
>> absolutely felt the need to enquire with the Crown directly.

>> Also for the record, I agree that things should be handled as openly as
possible. That is why Jehanne and I
>> announced the banishment to the people of Bryn Gwlad at a fighter
practice following the official proclamation
>> by the Crown. We stated very simply and very matter of factly that the
Crown had issued a level three
>> banishment  against Eric Mauer (who lives in our barony and whom we count
as a respected friend), and that we
>> could not discuss the specific issue any farther. If anyone in Bryn Gwlad
feels that we could have been more open
>> regarding the matter, please let us know.

Pendaran