[Ansteorra] RE: Marshal gauges
Carl Chipman
cchipman at nomadics.com
Wed Apr 24 09:29:51 PDT 2002
Whaddya mean "let us take this to the Marshals page"?
Jean Paul
Carl Chipman
Nomadics, Inc.
cchipman at nomadics.com
http://www.nomadics.com
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From: ansteorra-admin at ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-admin at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Tump Laird
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:08 PM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: [Ansteorra] RE: Marshal gauges
I think it would be perfect for their to be a "standard" Ansteorran
gauge
with all the things needed. I have seen quite a variation in gauges.
Pass
one place fail another. Let us take this to the Marshals page to
decide on
the design and how to purchase them.
Botolf
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: order of crowns (Seanan mac Tighearnain)
2. RE: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Rhodes-walden,
Jennifer)
3. RE: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Brian Martin)
4. Re: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Theron Bretz)
5. Re: Marshalling gauges (Pug Bainter)
6. Dearth of 'older' folk (Carolle M Cox)
7. Re: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (mike young)
8. RE: Marshalling gauges (Carl Chipman)
9. Re: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Chiara)
10. Re: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Aurore Gaudin)
11. RE: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Elisabeth B. Zakes)
12. RE: History/Enculturation/Clickishness.... (Rhodes-walden,
Jennifer)
13. Re: order of crowns (Burke McCrory)
14. Re: order of crowns (Burke McCrory)
15. Wake Up Herald! (Stephen Macthomas)
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Message: 1
From: "Seanan mac Tighearnain" <seanan at elfsea.net>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] order of crowns
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:55:23 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
There is a list appended to the Order of Precedence
which can be found here:
http://heraldry.ansteorra.org/OP/OP.pdf
careful, it's a large document, the listing of crowns
is close to the end...
-Seanan
----
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:58:25 -0400
From: "Rhodes-walden, Jennifer" <Jennifer.Rhodes-walden at usa.xerox.com>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
To: "'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'" <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
>Finally, take an interest in the SCA upbringing of one person. One to
one
acculturation takes time, but it guarantees there will be at least one
other
person in the SCA who shares most of your views. :-)
It's not much, but it's better than nothing at all.
Luciano
Realizing that, at 38, that I'm older now than most of the "old timers"
were
when I started.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Luciano,
....does this mean you're offering yourself for such an indoctrination?
Makes me wish I lived closer than StarGate (or that my car was a lot
more
reliable!).
Elysia
(up for adoption?)
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Message: 3
From: Brian Martin <BMartin at Corp.Prodigy.com>
To: "'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'" <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:16:31 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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Innes Wrote:
One Step further,......
Make it a fun Circle, One that everyone joins in, perhaps not
conducting
individuals so much as doing one that everyone can join in . The
best
bardic circles that I can remember were the one that Maggie, (Lady
Majrie
Du
Bray ) (sp) presided over.
there were no sad sad songs, done by only 1 person, no one read from a
book,
(to me that is boring) anyone can read. Let the Bards who do want to
perform,
learn their pieces, and look people in the eye. not at a printed page,
Personally, I think that there is far to much of that going on. sure
have
notes. single words or short phrases to jog your memory, but not whole
pages to read.
Sing songs that most everyone knows, so they can join in.
Pendaran's response:
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think that I've ever been to
a
circle where folk weren't encouraged to join in, or where "conducted".
Everyone joining in is one of the points of bardic circles.
While I agree that its better for people to have things memorized, there
are
so few people doing circles these days, that I don't mind people reading
from a page for a while if it gets them performing. I've also found that
not
too many people know many of the old songs anymore. Perhaps with more
circles, more people can learn more songs/stories/poems. Anyone out
there
feel like sponsoring a circle or two in the near future?
Pendaran
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Message: 4
From: "Theron Bretz" <tbretz at montroseclinic.org>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:20:57 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> ....does this mean you're offering yourself for such an
indoctrination?
> Makes me wish I lived closer than StarGate (or that my car was a lot
more
> reliable!).
>
> Elysia
> (up for adoption?)
LOL! Well, let's see, I have a wife, a son, a mistress*, and a cadet.
I've
really never considered taking on wards. But who knows?
Luciano
*Only in persona, I assure you. I'm not that big of a fool...
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:33:10 -0500
From: Pug Bainter <pug at pug.net>
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Marshalling gauges
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Carl Chipman (cchipman at nomadics.com) said something that sounded like:
> 3" Thrusting tips
> 2" Thrusting tips
> 1.25" (low profile) thrusting tips and haft thickness
As well as arrow/bolt head diameters, insides of fiberglass spears and
stricking edges.
> 1" bar for checking helm bar spacing
> 5/32" 1/8" and 3/32" wall thickness checks for fiberglass spears=85
Don't we only need 1/8"? What are the others for?
Can we add 5/16" and 1/4" for wood and fiberglass arrows/bolts
respectively=
?
> This seems to be the things that have the most problem passing, so I
> included them.
>
> If we order 100 of them out of GP03 (a 3/16" rigid fiberglass resin -
> reddish color), we can get them for around $5.50 a piece.
Since this is the case, would they be able to have lettering put on/in
them as to *what* the different parts of the gauge are for.
> Please either reply publicly or privately if you=92d be interested in
> getting some, or if you have suggestions.
I'd be interested.
Ciao,
--
Phelim "Pug" Gervase | "What about your friends?
Bryn Gwlad - Ansteorra | They're Defective!
Dark Horde Moritu | All the parts are out of stock."
pug at pug.net | --Meatloaf
Note: The views do not reflect the SCA nor the Kingdom of Ansteorra.
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Message: 6
From: "Carolle M Cox" <hpockets at gte.net>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:33:12 -0500
Subject: [Ansteorra] Dearth of 'older' folk
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Well, i know this 'older one' doesn't stay around much because of health
concerns with herself and members of the family. But we Will be at
Steppes
Warlord, and we Will be camping (as long as we can plug Himself in, that
is). Please, come to Arkham camp and look us up if we're not out and
about!
Gerita
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Message: 7
From: "mike young" <uther at lcc.net>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:30:14 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
And why do we "old folks" not remain on site at night?
I mean, I know why I don't, but what do you beleive the reasons are?
gwyneth
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To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
> I would like to have your feeling on something I percieve is
happening...
>
> There seem to be fewer and fewer "older" people remaining onsite at
events
> in the evenings and at night. Because of this I see a growing split
in
> culture because the "newer" people are not being exposed to the
history or
> able to get into circumstances to easily get to know the "elders" in
> informal settings that breed comraderie...
>
>
> Lorraine DeerSlayer
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Message: 8
From: cchipman at nomadics.com (Carl Chipman)
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Marshalling gauges
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:49:43 -0500
Organization: Nomadics, Inc.
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Answer and comments below...
Jean Paul de Sens
Carl Chipman
Nomadics, Inc.
cchipman at nomadics.com
http://www.nomadics.com
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[mailto:ansteorra-admin at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Pug Bainter
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:33 PM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Marshalling gauges
Carl Chipman (cchipman at nomadics.com) said something that sounded like:
> 3" Thrusting tips
> 2" Thrusting tips
> 1.25" (low profile) thrusting tips and haft thickness
As well as arrow/bolt head diameters, insides of fiberglass spears and
stricking edges.
[Carl Chipman] Insides of fiberglass spears should actually be 1". The
total diameter is 1.25", and with .125" on either side, that only leaves
1".
> 1" bar for checking helm bar spacing
> 5/32" 1/8" and 3/32" wall thickness checks for fiberglass spears=85
Don't we only need 1/8"? What are the others for?
[Carl Chipman] Cause nothing is perfect :) Ansteorra's exact wordings
of the rules on fiberglass spears state in one clause that the wall
thickness must be no more that 1/8" thick. In another clause, it states
that the wall thickness can be no more than 1/8". Since it is almost
utterly improbable that ANYTHING will be EXACTLY 1/8", Sir Wilhelm added
in 1/32" of leeway on the standard. 1/8" plus or minus 1/32 gives us
3/32" for the minimum wall thickness, and 5/32" for the maximum wall
thickness. The gauge has a graduated stepping, so that if doesn't go
in, its too thick, if it goes in to the first notch (5/32") its above
but within range, if it goes in to the second notch, its ok, and if it
goes into the 3rd notch, its too small.
Can we add 5/16" and 1/4" for wood and fiberglass arrows/bolts
respectively?
[Carl Chipman] lemme post the picture, and I'll see. It may drive the
price up, and we'd have to find a place on the gauge to put it.
> This seems to be the things that have the most problem passing, so I
> included them.
>
> If we order 100 of them out of GP03 (a 3/16" rigid fiberglass resin -
> reddish color), we can get them for around $5.50 a piece.
Since this is the case, would they be able to have lettering put on/in
them as to *what* the different parts of the gauge are for.
[Carl Chipman] I'll ask.
> Please either reply publicly or privately if you=92d be interested in
> getting some, or if you have suggestions.
I'd be interested.
Ciao,
--
Phelim "Pug" Gervase | "What about your friends?
Bryn Gwlad - Ansteorra | They're Defective!
Dark Horde Moritu | All the parts are out of stock."
pug at pug.net | --Meatloaf
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Message: 9
From: "Chiara" <chiara at io.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:59:34 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Ok, you really want us to bore the list with our reasons so here are
three
of mine. Three kids that cannot stay out at the site for long for
medical
reasons, they can stay at hotels though (so in a way I am there
overnight i=
f
I have a sitter with them).
Sincerely,
Chiara Francesca
Steppes, Ansteorra
`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`
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From: "mike young" <uther at lcc.net>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
> And why do we "old folks" not remain on site at night?
> I mean, I know why I don't, but what do you beleive the reasons are?
> gwyneth
>
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Message: 10
From: "Aurore Gaudin" <Aurore at hot.rr.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:07:16 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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As for the wandering herald for Middleford, I won't even get up at 6am.
Ev=
en the 8am wake up call is dangerous to my phsyical health. (Keeps
forgett=
ing to not to herald near Talon's camp before he had his first coffee of
th=
e day)
OYEA OYEA THIS IS THE 8AM WAKE UP CALL
thwack
OUCH
Score one for the archers of Middleford
Score zero for the heralds of Middleford
One dead herald, Aurore
P.S. The last part was fiction. No heralds have been harmed in the
making =
of this message.
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From: Jane Sitton
To: 'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Do this, and we will quickly run out of heralds. I know many people
who
will kill if awakened at 6 a.m.
LOL
Madelina
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:31 PM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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Perhaps, start the memories earlier, I know that I personally cannot
st=
ay
up as long as in the past. Instead of having wake up call at 8 A M,
hav=
e
it at 6 AM, get a jump start on the day. lol
Innes
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Message: 11
From: "Elisabeth B. Zakes" <ezakes at austin.rr.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:09:51 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
I guess I could be considered an old-timer, so I'll put in my tuppence
worth.
[...]
> (3) Many of my friends have children, I have the horse, dog and
multitude
of
> cats, all of which need to be fed and cared for, and we can't always
find
a
> babysitter/pet sitter to help with this.
It is possible to bring quite small children to events, and camping
events.
Planning is the key (isn't it always? <G>) Pets are a little more
difficult,
with many events publishing "No pets" on the event announcements.
> (4) The older I get, the less I want to sleep on the hard ground.
More
> folks I know now too have asthma. Just increasing aches and pains
sends
> many of us to hotels at night instead of camping, and those who are
> hotelling have to leave early enough to be able to drive there safely
> instead of shuffling 12 feet off to bed.
I haven't wanted to sleep on the ground in quite a while. Tivar and I
went
to a Real Bed at TFYC and haven't looked back since. It makes a real
difference. But then, we're willing to have a van and, at need, a
trailer to
bring everything we need for comfort and children.
Someone else (Luciano?) mentioned sponsorship of others. I like this
idea.
We have "sponsored" a number of people over the years, though not
formally,
and it seems to work pretty well.
One reason folks have tended to pack up and leave Saturday evening is
that
there's nothing to stay for on Sundays. Sundays in the Old Days (<G>)
were
for pick-up fights, socializing, and other not-so-structured things when
events were less plentiful and there were people there you hadn't seen
in
six months. Perhaps some of the event's activities could be planned for
Sunday as well as Saturday.
Aethelyan Moondragon
Bryn Gwlad
Decadence is its own reward.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:13:32 -0400
From: "Rhodes-walden, Jennifer" <Jennifer.Rhodes-walden at usa.xerox.com>
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
To: "'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'" <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
...or you can 'warn' them you're coming, as we did at Border Wars in
Lindenwood. Herald in Charge carried a large Chinese cow-bell and
allowed it
to preceed her. I might even try that come Warlord!
Elysia
HIC, Warlord
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From: Aurore Gaudin [mailto:Aurore at hot.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:07 PM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
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As for the wandering herald for Middleford, I won't even get up at 6am.
Even the 8am wake up call is dangerous to my phsyical health. (Keeps
forgetting to not to herald near Talon's camp before he had his first
coffee
of the day)
OYEA OYEA THIS IS THE 8AM WAKE UP CALL
thwack
OUCH
Score one for the archers of Middleford
Score zero for the heralds of Middleford
One dead herald, Aurore
P.S. The last part was fiction. No heralds have been harmed in the
making
of this message.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Sitton
To: 'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] History/Enculturation/Clickishness....
Do this, and we will quickly run out of heralds. I know many people
who
will kill if awakened at 6 a.m.
LOL
Madelina
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:31 PM
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
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Perhaps, start the memories earlier, I know that I personally cannot
stay
up as long as in the past. Instead of having wake up call at 8 A M,
have
it at 6 AM, get a jump start on the day. lol
Innes
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:15:28 -0500
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
From: Burke McCrory <bmccrory at oktax.state.ok.us>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] order of crowns
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
At 03:32 PM 4/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I know there is a listing of the past crowns, and I even used to have
it
but
>alas I can not find it. Can some kind gentle please send me this
information
>if you so have it.
>
>
>Lisabetta
There use to be a link on the Ansteorran website to a page listing them
with some pictures. I don't know what happen to it. You can go to the
OP
or to this website which lists the Known World Royalty
http://ealdormere.sca.org/scaroyalty/
Burke
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:15:28 -0500
To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
From: Burke McCrory <bmccrory at oktax.state.ok.us>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] order of crowns
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
At 03:32 PM 4/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I know there is a listing of the past crowns, and I even used to have
it
but
>alas I can not find it. Can some kind gentle please send me this
information
>if you so have it.
>
>
>Lisabetta
There use to be a link on the Ansteorran website to a page listing them
with some pictures. I don't know what happen to it. You can go to the
OP
or to this website which lists the Known World Royalty
http://ealdormere.sca.org/scaroyalty/
Burke
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Message: 15
From: "Stephen Macthomas" <macthomas at ev1.net>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Subject: [Ansteorra] Wake Up Herald!
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:19:59 -0500
Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
I once woke up a camp with something akin to: "Oyez, oyez! The time is
now
seven of the watch, the day dawns bright and cheerful. One hour until
armor
inspection. Two hours until morning court. Three hours until Merchants
Row
opens, where you can acquire your very own life-size likeness of the
wake-up
herald. This missive brought to you by the Interkingdom Archery
Competition. That is all."
No one threw or shot anything at me at all. I was, however, offered
coffee
three times and breakfast once. And got a lot of laughs. (OT note:
there's
a reason the morning shows on the radio are generally funnier than the
shows
throughout the day. Same principle works for the SCA too.)
Stephen
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