[Ansteorra] Peers and Such

[Keyna]

I have heard a comment or two said against you and I know that it is wrong.
I admire you for your knowledge and wisdom and I have been around at some of
the parties at events and had a blast with you.
Keyna

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From: "lanphier taylor" <jonwillowpel at juno.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Peers and Such


> I really liked this post. It is very true. I would like to add to it.
> Peers and nobles are people and like many SCAers deep down we are Shy. I
> don't know if you know this but there are certain amount of people in
> each group that don't want the peers and nobles to take part in the
> group. There are many reasons for this. For some people they are just
> scared that they will say the wrong thing, for others they feel their
> power base is threatened by people who have more experience and
> knowledge. Both of these groups put up barriers. For example one person
> kept people from talking to me by telling them if they  called me and the
> person made a mistake in my title I would hang up on them. Other person
> told people that I was so much into myself that I wore my ducal coronet
> to do the laundry. This kept people from wanting to talk to the crazy
> lady. Another problem is people run from me. I know the 10 feet is
> supposed to be a respect but I have to lay out traps to catch people.
> This is upsetting. I get lonely at events. And I have felt that I am a
> great damper on a party. This is sad because if you really know me you
> know how much I like to Party. I can't fix these problems but others can.
> In Elfsea and the Steppes some very nice people help me out. They have
> taught people the correct titles and assured people that I won't get
> upset if they use them wrong and they help break the ice by bridging that
> ten foot gap. Regular people smile at me when I come to an event and make
> me feel I am wanted even if the ducal thing is a pain. They play with my
> persona. This helps my participation a lot and I believe if all you did
> the same in your local groups you would probable find your peers taking a
> greater part. Don't wait for someone else to make someone welcome do it
> yourself. By the way this works with everyone.
>
> Duchess Willow de Wisp
>
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:01:44 -0500 "Keyna" <keyna at hot.rr.com> writes:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> > Well from everything that I have read on the list (and this is my
> > own thought) That peers and nobles are looked up to by the rest of
> > the kingdom no matter what. The populas does strive to be like them.
> > and it takes hard work to reach those goals. What I think Gilli is
> > getting at is that the show of the peers and nobles in a group at
> > the local level does have an influance on others as well as the new
> > people that show up to different activites and that helps with
> > recruting. It also makes them more accesable for knowlege and
> > lessons. When the group like from shire down gets the honor of
> > having a peer or noble in there group they are looked up to  and
> > believe me it is a big influance on the group and populas like I
> > have heard if he can do it than why can't I. But if they do things
> > else where and just pop up at an event or two and do nothing is
> > really frustrating to the people in that group. And it is the same
> > the other way if the peer or noble isn't doing anything than why
> > should I attitude kicks in. And all you Peers and nobles this is
> > specificly for you. You all are followed around by the populas like
> > little lost puppies looking for recognition or just to be noticed.
> > Watch some time and tell me this is not so. The populas look to you
> > for guidance and when this doesn't happen people get frustrated and
> > the wrong things can be said about someone that could be slanderous
> > and hurtful because of the build up of frustration. I see this all
> > the time. Yes it is grand to be working your butts off for the
> > kingdom at that level and around their majesties but let's don't
> > forget that the work at the local level is also work for the
> > kingdom. There may not be any crown or nobles present but it still
> > counts in the end.
> >
> > Keyna
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