[Ansteorra] How Much Travel is enough?

Bob Dewart gilli at hot.rr.com
Sat Dec 7 20:43:52 PST 2002

If the dish were fully cooked, it wouldn't need stirring.  :)  I think this
would be some "good to know" info.

The number of folks that I'm becoming aware of who have been told that they
don't travel enough, yet do numerous demos, is growing.

IMHO the folks I know about should have already been peers.  It seem they
are thought of as such by everyone except the circle.

Could age have be a limiting factor?

It has to be some of that secret hand shake stuff.  I don't recall a given
amount of travel in the requirements.

I would like to hear from "Laurels" on this question; either in private or
as a public education for all those interested out there.

Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul DeLisle" <ferret at hot.rr.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] How Much Travel is enough?

> > > I have a question.  How much traveling is enough to become a
> > Laurel?  No, I'm not asking about me.
> > > Gilli
> > Okay, I may be a newbie to the SCA, but I thought Laurels were given for
> > excellence in the arts? What does that have to do with travelling vast
> > distances?
> > a very confused,
> > zubeydah
> Two simple questions...with no simple answers...what a night!
> Let's tackle the second one first, if I may:
> Recieving a Patent (i.e. a Laurel, Pelican, or Knighthood/Master of Arms)
> more than excellence in that area. It also acknowedges that you are a
> in that field; that people can come to you with problems involving *any*
> aspect of said field (not necessarily your particular specialty), and you
> will either be able to help them, or easily get them to the person who
> *can*. It implies an extensive knowledge of your specialty, and of the
> as well as a level of leadership, maturity and ability to be able to solve
> problems.
> As far as the second question, Gilli:
> 6,387 miles per year, minimum.
> C'mon, man...you *know* there is no answer to this!...The members of *any*
> Peerage look at different aspects ...well....differently. Some value
> more than others. Some want to see a candidate dress very well before even
> being considered. Some want to see a Kingdom-level office under their belt
> before being considered. Some are more concerned with the candidate's
> visibility to the Kingdom (not necessarily how much they travel...) Some
> want to see a concrete achievement (winning several major tournaments,
> a finalist/winner in several consecutive Kingdom A&S's, sucessfully
> completing a stint as Kingdom Seneschal, etc.) Some will *never* vote for
> candidate because they don't like said candidate, and can't get past it.
> know, it's petty; but sadly, Peers are people too.)
> So...don't ask questions you already know the answer to, just to stir the
> pot, eh?  (*s*)
> IMHO, the best thing  that a potential candidate can do, is to ignore the
> buzzing of those "above" them (*and* of those "below" them, pushing for
> to be Peers), and concentrate on doing what they think needs to be done,
> doing it in the best and most useful way possible. As (I believe) Sir
> William of Wier once said (some 20 years ago):
> First, you decide to become a Knight.
> Then you spend years becoming a Knight.
> Then you spend more years trying to convince everyone that you're a
> Then you decide to quit trying to be a Knight.
> Then they put a white belt around your waist, because that's what Knights
> wear.
> In Service, I remain
> Alden Pharamond
> Tempio, Ansteorra
> (Olde Don, and curmudgeon-in-training)
> In Life, as in Judo... sometimes you win by relaxing.

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