[Ansteorra] Light fighting armor help!

gtaylor gtaylor at lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu
Wed Jan 2 09:03:26 PST 2002

Thanks Aurore for the input.  Museum Replicas (MR)  has some nice things that everyone wants to buy (I use a buckler from them).  Regarding armor for rapier combat, however, there's a difference between rapier armor and rapier clothing.  Museum replicas used to claim that their
clothing "provided the requisite protection" for SCA rapier use, but they do not.  As non-armor, they are fine for starters...but not as armor.

As an addendum to my prior post:  a type of rapier armor -can- be worn under the MR clothing, however...it's a "shell" of at least 3 layers of Judy's linen or four layers of "Trigger" (or equivalent that will pass a punch test) with coverage as described in the rapier rules of
Ansteorra.  Modern fencing vests can also be worn underneath, if they are not one-handed (some modern vests provide more protection on one side than the other, or neglect protection on the back...these are not acceptable) and can still pass an Ansteorran punch test.  If someone
does buy the Triplette tunic, I advise getting it in white, so that it can be hidden by a "pouffy white shirt."  Because it and modern fencing jackets sleeves are long, however, these jackets/tunics are hotter than needed in Ansteorra...our armor has to extend only partially down
the upper inner arm, leaving the rest of the arm to be covered by lighter material.


Aurore Gaudin wrote:

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> Ok in the Museum Replicas Limited, or www.museumreplicas.com, they have rapier clothing.  Vest runs $69, Shirt runs $49, Pants runs $39.  As for weapons that I'll have to hunt around my old catologs to find them.  Hopefully this prices might be a little more reasonable.  Aurore
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>   From: gtaylor
>   To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:52 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Light fighting armor help!
>   My advice is not to buy a Triplette SCA starter set unless you have lots of
>   money (don't see $200.00 as an investment), hardly ever fight, or absolutely no
>   where to turn for help with making something that actually looks vaguely period
>   (which this tunic does not).  Here's what Triplette says about it:
>   SCA LIGHT WEAPONS FIGHTER STARTER SETS are intended to get the beginning fighter
>   out on
>                           the field as quickly and as cheaply as possible. I'd
>   like to think that no one who buys a starter set will
>                           have any of it left in a year, except for the mask. You
>   really ought to have improved your own gear, and
>                           given away these pieces to a newcomer.
>   If the company is saying that they hope you have none of it left in a year,
>   except for the mask, this is NOT a ringing endorsement for its use/popularity in
>   the SCA (particularly in this kingdom).  If someone does buy and use it, then
>   fine...we're happy to have them fighting with us.  But I generally regret it
>   greatly when some new person invests in this kit, for I believe that someone's
>   not going to quickly dump a tunic on which they've spent good money.
>   Also...don't go nuts and buy their ugly, big-salad-bowl "Maximum hand
>   protection" R7, never-seen-anywhere-in history, theatrical rapier.  The R8 is
>   much better and much more accepted within in the rapier community.   In fact,
>   you might want to consider initially buying the R8 rather than a modern epee
>   bowl-based weapon...
>   Dona Isobel (darn, where are those ascii tilde things when you need one???  ;)
>   )
>   >
>   > >HELP!!
>   > >
>   > >I will be throwing myself into the LF (light Fighting)
>   > >this year with a passion as I have swwn and love the
>   > >art. I need help making a doublet.is there a pattern
>   > >any where that i can use? I have athe rules and such,
>   > >but a pattern would help my lady a lot!otherwise for
>   > >my first one I may order the starter set from
>   > >Tripletts..
>   > >
>   > >All help is appreciated,
>   > >Galiwyn Varrianes
>   > >Northkeep, Ansteorra
>   > >
>   > >  > >A lover, Not a fighter.
>   > >
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