[Ansteorra] Things to think about....

Mon Jul 22 20:18:35 PDT 2002

The only problem with doing things, making things happen,  doing what hasn't
been done before is that you get some folks saying that it's only being done
to get an award.  Or he's doing that to force us to do this or that.  In
truth there are a lot of lobsters out there.  Sorta paraphrasing the
song,"how many years must you do what you do before it is what you do?"

Gilli
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From: "lanphier taylor" <jonwillowpel at juno.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Things to think about....

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> Dear Dominic
>
> Most of the time I would agree  totally with you but as an active
> autocrat in my time and creator of events I learned some hard cold facts.
> The more money the event cost and the more money the gas cost and more
> time it takes us to get to events the more everyone expects. It is just a
> fact of life. Fifteen / twenty years ago we realize this and strived to
> put more into events. We encouraged people to do stuff and told people in
> our laws it was their"duty" to help recreate the pre-17th century past.
> We encouraged people to have personas and made arrangement for
> opportunities to play. We encouraged brain storming and new ideas. There
> was all sort of stuff going on mostly sponsored by individuals. Now the
> bureaucrats have taken over.
>
> If the officers  can not control it, it isn't done. I, Duchess Willow,
> with all the titles in the world find it hard to get the bureaucrats to
> OK anything. It usually take a goodly amount of time to get them to agree
> to anything. By the time they say OK I am so bored with the project I can
> hardly stand it. They go along usually if it is an all right idea but it
> takes too long. A lot of people don't have the experience and patience to
> know that if they keep trying usually it works. When faced with this red
> tape and bureaucracy slowdown they just get upset and stop.
>
> Ansteorrians have faced this stagnation before. Individual got into the
> offices and made it a point to make Ansteorra a user friendly place,
> Senchales tried to keep an open mind and the populous of groups began to
> take on the viewpoint that if you had enough people to do something and
> you were paying for it and it didn't do any damage to the SCA  and
> someone would enjoy it , it was alright to do. The whole point to being
> an creative organization is to create.  If we want people to start doing
> things again we are going to have help each other and protect each other
> from the "I don't knows" and "I not sure." and "We never done that way"
> and " It didn't work before" doldrums.
>
> While I believe that you are right in saying the answer to the problem is
> Ansteorrans getting off their butts and doing things, I also think all of
> us need to make Ansteorra a easier place to do things. We need to support
> projects in our area and help individuals in other areas with their
> projects. A while back you could get buttons that said " the SCA is not a
> spectator sport." I think that is a true statement.
>
> Duchess Willow de Wisp
>
>
> > Here are some examples:  "I drove ten hours and spent
> > 200 dollars to go to event A and I didn't have fun",
> > "Knight #1, and Knight #2 didn't help me set up my
> > tent or carry my things", "I am allergic to (insert
> > food/spice here) and the event steward didn't make a
> > special (food/spice) free meal for me", "I am into
> > medieval nose picking and Shire such-and-such didn't
> > have a nose picking contest at event X" -I could go on
> > with more but I think most of you get my point.
> >
> > For those of you that may have uttered any of the
> > above phrases or something like them, take some
> > personal responsibility for your actions.  If you
> > didn't have fun at an event -oh well don't go next
> > time or try to be a catalyst for fun.  **Your site fee
> > does not gaurantee you 48 hours of entertainment.**
> > The nobles, peers, and officers of the SCA were not
> > put on Earth to personally entertain you at events.
> > They are people who spent just as much money and time
> > as you did getting to the event, and I am sure they
> > would like to have fun while they are there.
> >
> > It is a great part of the SCA that we help each other.
> >  However when that help is expected and even demanded,
> > it brings a negative to the whole "help thy neighbor"
> > aspect.  People do not join the SCA to set up tents
> > and carry baskets.  If a knight is walking from their
> > tent to the list field and stops to help everyone who
> > might need it (most often I feel it's a case of wants
> > and not need, the majority of our populace is quite
> > capable of handling their own stuff) will never get to
> > the field.  Its not that they are being rude, just
> > simply that they have their own concerns or activities
> > that you are not aware of.
> > It is impossible for a group to cater to everyones
> > activities or special needs.  If you like to do
> > something that a certain event is not sponsoring,
> > don't go -or better yet try something new.  If you
> > really want to do activity X, start by convincing your
> > home group to sponsor an activity X event.  There are
> > hundreds of different food and spice allergies out
> > there, if the cooks removed all of them from the menu
> > all we would have for feast is a glass of filtered
> > water and a side of purified air.  So if you are
> > allergic to X and X is on the menu, don't get feast
> > and bring your own X free food.
> You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
> > http://health.yahoo.com
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