[Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items

Sat May 4 12:21:12 PDT 2002

I'm from Mentor Ohio. I will be flying to Cleveland to see my parents and my
20th High School reunion. Yes I am older than i look.
Keyna

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From: "Rob rose" <onetruewolf at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items

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> Whether the price was negligible or not, it was theft and it was wrong.
So on
> a different note, how do we combat the theft?  How do we make it harder to
> steal from our brothers and sisters in the dream?  At the same time we
have to
> keep in mind that we are playing in the SCA, representing a simpler (?)
time.
> It kind of reminds me of my childhood, when we didn't have to lock our
doors.
> And before anyone goes off on that tangent, I grew up in Cleveland.  And
even
> in Cleveland OH, we didn't have to lock em.  So how do we get there from
here?
> Make it hard for the theives, yet don't allow a detraction from the dream?
>
> Ian
> >From: "Olivia G. Rodrigues"
> >Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> >To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> >Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items
> >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:53:41 -0500
> >
> >M'lord,
> >
> >I did not take HE Pendaran's remarks as any insult except for the (what
> seemed to be) belittling of the theft. I wasn't being petty (I sincerely
> detest pettiness and besides, at Mexico prices, the value was negligible!)
I
> was only reporting that there was an incident to, shall we say, CMOAWA (if
you
> don't know, ask me privately). I didn't want to be held liable should any
> incident or injury have occured with anyone'drunk' on ill gotten gains
that
> came from my camp.
> >
> >
> >Olivia
> >
> >
> >
> >---
> >Carpe Diem Ex Illo Vitae Opprime!
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:29:12
> > Rob rose wrote:
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> > >Don't we think we are all being a bit touchy? We all know that Pendaran
> > >wasn't saying that stealing is ok. Even if it was only beer. I'm not
saying
> > >it's ok either. So why don't we all sit back and calm down a second.
> > >Stealing is a serious offense, one that i'm sure none of us would
tolerate
> if
> > >we saw it happening. On a religious note, the SCA embraces all forms of
> > >religeon. This does not mean that you can perform any rite that would
cause
> a
> > >member of the SCA to participate in simply by observing. It has no
bearing
> on
> > >this, but i just thought i'd throw that in just for the sake of
arguement.
> > >Let's not turn beer stealing into a religeous crusade. Someone stole
some
> > >beer from the lady, for that i have to say i am sorry for your
misfortune.
> > >Coming out here and announcing that you are a practicioner of the
craft,
> > >Wicca, buddhism, or a satanist has no bearing. I thought the camel
thing to
> > >be highly out of place, so i made a joke out of it. But let's be
serious a
> > >moment. We all know that Pendaran would not advocate the stealing of
> another
> > >person's propety. Be it a Crown, or a beer. So with that in mind, while
his
> > >reply may have been lacking in tact, so was mine, and so far so has
> everything
> > >i have seen since, at least on this thread. including my own
statements.
> Let
> > >me put it plainly. We don't advocate stealing. We have no right to say
> > >anything about a person's religeon whether we agree or disagree. But
let's
> > >have a modicum of respect for those who do disagree. And let's try to
use a
> > >little more tact.
> > >
> > >At this time i don't think i would reccomend that any new person get on
> this
> > >list. Not with all of the bickering that goes on.
> > >
> > >Ian Macleod
> > >>From: "Harris Mark.S-rsve60"
> > >>Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> > >>To: "'ansteorra at ansteorra.org'"
> > >>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Stolen (Borrowed?) Items
> > >>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:49:11 -0700
> > >>
> > >>Pendaran declared:
> > >> > Umm was this really necessary? For crying out loud, somebody
> > >> > swiped some
> > >> > beer - does that really necessitate your making a ridiculous
> > >> > threat and
> > >> > talking about a camel's reproductive organs on a public
> > >> > board? Grow up.
> > >> >
> > >> > And yes this was meant to be sent publicly,
> > >> > Pendaran
> > >>
> > >>Are you saying then that you condone this stealing? And that
> > >>she should just keep quiet about it?
> > >>
> > >>Are you saying that you would not be upset if someone went
> > >>into your closed tent and took something that interested them?
> > >>Or since this is "only" beer, then stealing this is okay?
> > >>
> > >>As for the camels bit, it may or may not have been excessive
> > >>language, but I suspect that it is at least a period oath
> > >>or close to it.
> > >>
> > >>Stefan li Rous
> > >>
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