[Ansteorra] Teacher evaluation {mundane spam}

caladin caladin at io.com
Thu Nov 14 21:58:37 PST 2002


While I don't deny it's sticky, the problem of HOW to evaluate the teacher
is solveable...

Examples...

Judge teachers based against the other teachers in the same school and
district and state on proportional basis, to
minimize differneces in cash, resources, enviromnet etc etc etc...

Use the same standardized tests we use now, plus other we ramp up to be more
comprehensive.

Take the scores before the school year, and the ones after.... Compare them

Take those and compare them with both other teachers of the same material
(science, etc) and the same school.

Put a curve in to again dampen out sociological & economic features...

Now add a section for review form other teachers, parents, students, factor
that in "fairly"...
(yeah I know I didnt' say it'd be easy, just doable)

Take a given amount of money, distribute it to each school, the teachers who
are in the top 50% in that schools scoring,
get to split the money, the bottom 50%, don't. Split it evenly or on a
performance gradiant, what ever you decide is fair...

While that does not cover all the possilbe issues, it covers most of the
ones you've mentioned here....

My real question is, why do the teachers organizations start fighting it
before they even get to the argueing the rules part...

Sure if the rules suck, kill it, fight it, make it bleed, but why isn't the
concept of more money for better results attractive to the "union"?

It seems more like a prinicipal thing, like pay based on perfomance is a bad
thing somehow...
That's what I want to understand... It seems like a win win to me... more
money is more money... and
If it goes to the teachers we deem best even better...

Aside from the fact that IMHO unions prefer to base it on seiniority,
because that's easier, stabel and predicatble...(ie happy union members)

Since I beleive the rules are solveable, postulate this.

If you got to make upthe rules so that you were 100% convinced they were
fair... Bonuses on top of you salary, not included in school budget etc
etc.. what ever you want...

Would you accept it?

If so, then why doesn't the "teacher union" negotioate the rules instead of
killing the idea from the get go.

If not, why? What's so bad about pay for performance. Chinese schools seem
to put out some pretty good students...
Of course we only see the cream of the crop...

Caladin-

Still not getting it...






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