[Ansteorra] Event Limits?

[Bob Dewart]

Thank you very much for those numbers.

Gilli
Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
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From: <j_smallw at titan.sfasu.edu>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Limits?


> Quoting Michael Tucker <mtucker at airmail.net>:
>
> > One could just as easily ask "Why was there no officer from your shire
> > in attendance at King's Round Table, to hear the news first hand?
> > Failing that, why did none of your up-line officers (such as the
> > regional or kingdom seneschal) notify your group of this pending
> > change?"
>
> Of course, one might ask why all the pelicans, knights, laurels, white
scarves,
> centurians, etc don't all attend the various circles.  We don't even have
all
> of any of these groups attend even if the circle is local.<G>
>
> True, the seneschals should have been informed by either the kingdom
seneschal
> or their regional and then, in turn, inform their own populace.  Evidently
this
> isn't the case with every group.
>
> >
> > *Most* of the groups in the kingdom don't have landed nobles to inform
> >
> > them. That doesn't make them the downtrodden minority, it makes them
> > the majority of groups.
> >
> > Speaking as a former officer of  the kingdom, I assure you that the
> > shires, cantons and colleges are given plenty of consideration at the
> > kingdom level. But, it has to be a two-way street. The shire's officers
> > have to care enough to attend meetings when they're called, bring news
> > back from those meetings and share it with their fellow officers and
> > populace.
>
> Again, were the all the seneschals in the kingdom required to be at Round
Table
> or send a representative?  If so, then there's no excuse.  If not, then it
> falls back to being informed by kingdom or regional level.
>
> >
> > > As a shire member, I can tell you
> > > that we don't here the news from a landed person in these groups.
> > The
> > > baronies worry about themselves and don't bother to bring this kind
> > of
> > > news to the shires, at least in my region.
> > >
> >
> > Is it our neighbor Meridies' problem to keep Ansteorra informed of
> > changes made by the BoD? No. It's Ansteorra's problem to stay informed,
> > all on her own.
>
> At least the BOD announces the changes they are contemplating (to a
certain
> extent) if it's going to affect the populace in general.  And perhaps the
Crown
> or the kingdom seneschal will have just such an announcement in a future
Black
> Star.  Hopefully that's the case as it seems that there is a fair amount
of
> resistance to such a change.
>
> >
> > It's not the barony's problem to inform you. It's *your* problem to
> > stay informed. Or, failing that, it's your up-line officers (regional
> > and kingdom) to see that you are informed of changes.
> >
> <snip>
>
> > I'd like to see more shires and cantons bid for those events. If you
> > don't bid, it's pretty hard for the kingdom to give you the event.
> >
> > I'd also like to see more thought put into our events. I'd much rather
> >
> > have 3 groups get together to host a knock-your-socks-off event, than
> > have 3 bland "formula" events.
> >
> > The research was done years ago to determine that we needed fewer,
> > better, events. The Crown and Kingdom Seneschal suggested that groups
> > head in that direction. Very few listened. Modest limits were put in
> > place. Still, very few listened. We're about to see stronger limits put
> >
> > in place.
> >
> > I think the answer isn't to complain about the limits, but to do
> > something to address the problem that motivated the Crown and Seneschal
> >
> > to impose those limits in the first place.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Michael Silverhands
>
> Has the problem been brought to the people?
>
> And just what is the problem?  I've been hearing for years that the
calendar is
> too crowded.  Everytime I hear that, I check the calendar and actually run
the
> numbers.  It makes me wonder just what certain people consider "crowded".
>
> For instance, if you were to look at the current 12 months (Aug '03 to
July '04)
> of the kindom calendar on line, you will find :
>
> There are currently 69 events scheduled over 53 weeks.  Thats 1.3 events
per
> weekend.  (Doesn't sound crowded to me.)
>
> If we exclude the weekends that have no events at all scheduled
(Christmas,
> Gulf War, etc.), we have 44 weekends with events scheduled.  That brings
the
> number up to 1.6 events per weekend.  (Still doesn't seem too crowded)
>
> The breakdown is :
>
> 25 weekends with only 1 event
> 14 weekends with 2 events
> 4 weekends with 3 events
> 1 weekend with 4 events scheduled.
>
> This means that only 5 of the weekends with events currently scheduled
have 3
> or more events on a given weekend.  That's only 11% of the weekends with
events
> scheduled.  And some of the weekends that are empty could easily take an
event
> or 2.
>
> Also something that people don't tend to mention when they say the
calendar is
> too crowded is that, in addition to the current group limitations, there
is
> also a regional limitation (no more than 1 per region per weekend) and a
> distance limitation (not sure where the mileage between events has to be,
but
> I'm sure HL Gwenneth Blackrose can tell us).  Yes, these limitations can
be
> waived, but it's not often that they are.
>
> So I guess my whole question is "What is the problem?".  It doesn't appear
that
> the current system is broken, so as the old saying goes "If it ain't
broke,
> don't fix it."  Improvements are one thing, but I don't see as whole these
new
> limitations will improve things appreciably.
>
> Ansgar
>
>
>
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