[Ansteorra] king of the east..please pass along

[Bob Dewart]

These rules were made in a simpler, gentler, pre 9-11 times.  They should be
modifed to taken into account the NEW REAL WORLD.  We made them, we can
change them.  Our pretend world in fine untill someone slams a 747 into it.
While that probably won't hurt a particular event that much, I hope you see
my point.

Many of us are either xmilitary or reserves or active duty.  Many of us
could be called upon to do our duty.  A civilain job is required by LAW to
keep a job open for those in the reserve that must go to heed the call of
their country.  Should a grins and giggles non profit organization  do less?

If these folks get hit by their enemy's weapon, they may not be able to say
"light".

Gilli
Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Smith" <morganbuchanan at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] king of the east..please pass along


> I think the reasoning is like this:
>
> Let's say someone was 17 and a Life Boy Scout.  That's the rank just below
> Eagle for those of you unfamiliar.  Let's say this 17 year old joined the
> military, went away to basic and turned 18.  All he had left was 1
> meritbadge before getting his Eagle.  One can't get their Eagle Scout
award
> after turning 18.  But he joined the military so he didn't get that merit
> badge.  He didn't fill the requirement in the specified time.  He knew
what
> the requirement was when he joined the military.
>
> For the SCA, corpora says "if you don't finish the reign, no doo dad"
right?
> From my understanding, wasn't the rule actually put in place BECAUSE of
> military people?
>
> Do I think what Andre Sinou is doing is more important than what King
> Andreas is doing?  Yup.  But reading corpora is something that kings and
> queens should (aren't they required?) do.  One of the points under
> "qualification" states that the K&Q entrants must know they are able to
> complete the reign.  Nobody would suggest anyone would know they're going
to
> die.  But knowing one has military requirements that could cause them to
> miss the reign is something anyone in the military should know.  :)
>
> The specific rule you're looking for is 4.C.2:
>
> The royal pair must attend their Coronation or Investiture, preside over
the
> Royal Lists to select their successors, and attend the Coronation or
> Investiture of their successors.  They must also attend such other events
as
> may be dictated by the laws of their realm.  Should extreme and
> extraordinary curcumstances, such as death, prevent a Crown, heir to the
> Crown, Coronet, or heir to the Coronet, from completing these
requirements,
> the BoD may, upon substantial petition, and on a case by case basis, waive
> these requirements to allow the bestowing of royal peerage or royal title.
>
> So....it's not death.  Should the rule be changed to broaden the
deffinition
> of "extreme and extraordinary"?  Being called up to active duty in the
> military isn't all that extraordinary.  It's happened to thousands and
> thousands of men and women all over this country ever since the Gulf War.
> Not ours.  Just some thoughts.  My only concern is that the rules be
applied
> evenly.
>
> Morgan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
> To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] king of the east..please pass along
>
>
> > OK, I guess I didn't see the correct rule when I looked at it.  All I
saw
> > was the part where the Kingdom could have a rule about it.  So, what's
the
> > section  that says this man, going to serve his REAL country, can't get
> his
> > du dad?
> >
> > Gilli
> > Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <DonPieter at aol.com>
> > To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] king of the east..please pass along
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > In a message dated 1/19/2003 2:46:28 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > morgancain at earthlink.net writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought they resolved this issue when they addressed the
Prince/Duke
> > > > Jafar
> > > > question, a number of years ago.
> > > >
> > > >                           ---= Morgan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > As far as i know.. they "resolved"it by saying that the rule of don't
> see
> > the
> > > end of the reign no title was unbending. They didn't do it for him
when
> he
> > > passed on i believe.
> > >
> > > Pieter
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