[Ansteorra] Judging (was:question)

[Elaine Crittenden]

How about requiring a judge to say three nice things to each individual 
not-nice thing? ;-)

IMHO, I would prefer a judge stay inside their area of expertise.

I, personally, am perfectly capable of judging painting and calligraphy
techniques, but I would be hard put to judge oxcart wheels.  ;-)

Lete Bithespring, Steppes

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>From: "Paul DeLisle" <ferret at hot.rr.com>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: [Ansteorra] Judging (was:question)
>Date: Wed, Jul9, 2003, 6:07 PM
>

>> Would you like it if you were a non-AOAer and were judged by someone who
>> was an AOAer
>> An AOAer being judged by a holder of the Thistle?  By the Thistle by an
>> Iris and the Irises were to be judged by a Laurel.  this would
>> mean that a
>> LAurel might not ever see your work until you were an Iris?
>> Would this work?
>
> Actually (since we're on the subject *G*), I don't think there's a "rank"
> problem. People have expertise that thier awards may not reflect. I think
> the *big* problem is when judges are unable to step outside their expertise
> or interest. Either they won't judge something in the area that it's
> entered-into, or a judge is unwilling to admit that they might need help,
> and won't go and ask. Examples:
> Someone enters a tunic in an embroidery competition, but the judge *trashes*
> the entry because it was either A: machine sewn: B: has curve-set sleeves C:
> is made of a poly-cotton material.
> None of these things have anything to do with the *embroidery* (which the
> entry card and attendant documentation make clear), but that is this
> particular judge's pet peeve.)
> Second example:
> Someone enters a hand-forged throwing axe. However, the picture in the
> documentation is of a different type than the actual item. The judge knew
> nothing of "hard arts", and instead of grading the item on Form, Fit and
> Finish (and *reading* the documentation, which explained the discrepency),
> the judge says that it isn't period, and again gives an extremely low score.
>
> Both of these scenarios actually happened (with minor changes to protect the
> guilty), and in both cases, the judges in question were Laurels. In one
> case, the submittor even tried to seek out the judge later, only to be given
> a humiliating dressing-down (in public.)
>
> It doesn't matter *what* rank a judge is; we are (hopefully) all friends,
> and we are all learning (all the time.) Judges need to remember that.
>
> To continue your thread, one thing that the *submittor* can do to help with
> this, is to remain with your display (difficult these days, I know)....but
> then you are able to interact, and answer questions on-the-spot.
>
> Alden
> (who shoved this soapbox under me?)
>
>
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