[Ansteorra] Land
Jan Van Zandt
hejanais at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 20 08:19:35 PST 2005
FREE isn't always the answer.
What I find amazing is that you assume that you are a member of any of the groups in reference - perhaps these were hypothetical incidences - and you feel the need to explain anything.
Money and FREE - Here's another matter - budgets and finance committees. Budgets and finance committees are important because financial decisions are not being made by one person and the group's money isn't squandered on excessive feast budgets or unnecessary equipment/multiples of unneeded items that end up requiring storage. Perhaps, then, paying for storage wouldn't be entirely out of the question.
Gilli, If there is anything about this thread that you would like to discuss in a reasonable manner, please take it off of the Ansteorran list and email me privately. But please do keep in mind - and I have told you this before - in person and by email - I will NOT respond to any emails in which you call me or anyone else foul names or resort to rude, crude language or make threats.
Baroness Jan
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Gilli wrote:
Well that's an amazing thing to. The story of the shire stuff continues.
About 5 - 6 later, the folks that took the stuff for storeage said they were
getting ready to move. So the shire needed a new place for the quipment.
Well, we didn't want it back. There was no one to take it. We looked into
a storage unit. Do the math. Those things aren't cheap. In a few years
we'd be out of money. But then some old members returned and said the
equipment could be stored at their place. Only problem was, while still in
our zip list, it was 40 miles away from the bulk of the members. But the
price was right, FREE.
Gilli
----- Original Message -----
From: <Ciard49 at aol.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land - was Question 12/13
>
> In a message dated 12/19/2005 8:05:33 AM Central Standard Time,
> hejanais at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Ciard,
>
> There have been incidences in which a group had all of their things
> stored
> in someone's private shed and then - out of the blue - the group is told
> to
> come get the stuff immediately because the owners want the space for
> something
> else. Or...the shed owner gets mad at the group and says he/she isn't
> going
> to play anymore and won't let the group have their property. There have
> been shed owners who used - at random - anything he/she wanted to use out
> of the
> shed at any time - after all it is in his/her shed on his/her private
> property - and then the items didn't get put back and disappeared.
> Sometimes
> people begin to feel as if they personally own SCA property - especially
> if they
> were the person responsible, once upon a time, for purchasing the items
> with
> SCA funds for the group and they also have possession of it on their
> property.
>
> We've all had that dream of winning the lottery and building a castle and
> offering all the amenities to our friends. Who knows, it might work
> unless you
> have to deal with someone who feels they have the right (which legally
> they
> do) to be the 'overseer'/boss/in-charge-of-everything that happens on the
> site. How about when the owners tell the group who and who can not come
> on
> their property?
>
> It all sort of depends on the history of the honor and attitudes of the
> people involved. What would you tell someone who wants the group's
> things stored
> on their private property when, in the past, they got mad and quit
> playing
> with the group - then they came back and want every one to trust them
> again?
>
> I'm not saying, 'don't trust anyone' - but it is few problems like these
> that have caused our Game to have to make more and more rules that all of
> us
> have to follow. Just be careful and know who you are dealing with.
> Wish I had a simple solution...
>
> Baroness Jan
>
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