[Ansteorra] Armor....what a pain -- long

HL Chiara Franchesca vscribe at ansteorra.org
Mon Jul 18 21:04:26 PDT 2005


Ah! Ok, now I understand what you need. :)

What you need is to hook up with someone there in Bryn-Gwlad that has an
armouring night. Your fighter practice is Tuesday night if things are still
the way there were when I was there years ago.

If your wares are stainless, not sure what to tell you. Fritz, my laurel,
and Roc helped me put all of mine together and it took me about a month of
an hour here and an hour there between comminuting from one city to the
other for a contract. My laurel lives an hour and a half from me so I am
luckier than most to be within driving distance of a blacksmith. :)

Find someone with a Whitney punch to do the holes for you.
You will need Latigo leather to make your straps. Find someone that has
purchased a side and purchase a chunk off them. I got a great deal on mine
and got a side for 75.00. They run sales at Tandy every once in a while so
you may luck out.
You will need to get a Strap Cutter or a Draw Gauge to make your straps. You
want to measure your buckles and make them about 1/8 of an inch less on each
side of the strap.
You will need to get a Skiver to thin your strips in the center where they
bend around buckle and at the tips where the rivets will go.
You will need to get a Edge Beveller to take the corners off the edges.
Bees wax and a burnisher to finish those edges smooth.
Number 9 copper rivets and burrs, they may come in brass and other metals.
Get LOTS of these. The size may vary from armourer to armourer, get whatever
your boys recommend.
Now the next tool has a name I am sure but I do not know what it is.
Basically it fits over the rivet with the burr in place and you hammer that
to tighten it all up.
Pull offs or Nippers to cut the left over rivet and a ball pin hammer to
flatten the what is left. You want to have the smooth head on the inside of
the armour. If you go with a round head rivet you will need a platform of
some sort to keep it in place while you work. Center Bar Roller Buckles, I
prefer brass but they come in different metals. You will want the size that
is best for you to be able to handle when you need to get your armour on
fast. Mine are too small for my need for speed. Takes me longer to get into
my armour than to get in to my corset and Elizabethan.
Have you already stuffed your helm with padding? If not you can get camp
foam to do that, use the blue stuff. Or if you got a buddy that works with
air-conditioning get those strips of self adhesive foam to pad your helm
with. It is great stuff. There is even double stick duct tape now too.

Most of the tools you can borrow at your armouring night place or if your FP
is like ours you all meet about an hour or two before the fighting begins to
do armouring work. The guys with the tools are there and are more than
helpful to get you going.

I think that is everything. If not I am sure someone will chime in and add
to the list. :)

If this is a problem, come to the Steppes, we will help you. Just drop me an
email before you come up so that I can bring my leather.

HL Chiara
Captain of the Steppes Baronial Guard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronda Roberts" <rivyn at msn.com>
To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Armor....what a pain


> On the contrary, I have all of my armor, all I need to do is put straps
> and buckles on the leg armor, fit the chin strap into my helm, get the
> sword ready, put straps on my gorget, straps on my pauldrons (sp?) and get
> my shield ready.  I didn't think that it would take more than a day to do
> all of that once I have all of my supplies I figured I would need like
> leather, buckles and rivets.  Then mebbe someone to drill the holes where
> I need them.  I have all the armor I need, its just a matter of getting it
> put together and made wearable.  :(
>
> Sorry Commander Fox, don't look like this is going to happen anytime soon.
>
>
> In Service to the Dream,
> Muriel filia Donaldi de Skia
> Barony of Bryn-Gwlad
> The Silver Fox Squadron
> Ambassador to Atlantia
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>>From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Armor....what a pain
>>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:39:01 -0500
>>
>>   Muriel filia Donaldi de Skia asked:
>>>I am searching for someone to assist me in getting my shield, sword, helm
>>>and leg armor ready so that I can find a place to get authorized at
>>>before
>>>Gothic Wars gets here.
>>
>>And then Jean Paul mentioned:
>>>Also, Stefan's floregium probably has some good resources too.
>>
>>Thank you, Jean Paul!
>>
>>Yes, there are a few files in the COMBAT section of the Florilegium which
>>might be useful. I assume Muriel, that you are just trying to put together
>>some serviceable armor for now and that you will see about improving it
>>later. Even so, I thought Gothic Wars was coming up pretty soon. It can
>>take you much longer than you expect to get your armor together. It
>>certainly did me. If you are buying it, you will still have to strap it,
>>pad it and do various other things to make it serviceable. I certainly
>>wouldn't try to make a suit of mail before Gothic Wars. :-)  Maybe someday
>>I'll finish up the, currently sleeveless, mail shirt I started making 15
>>years ago. You may be able to get authorized in some borrowed or baronial
>>loaner armor before you have all of your armor completed.
>>
>>Anyway, here are a few files from the COMBAT section that I'd take a look
>>at considering your questions above.
>>shields-msg      (103K)  6/16/05    SCA and period shields.
>>Shield-Balanc-art (10K)  6/23/99    "How to Balance your Shield to YOU!"
>>                                        by Master Sir Anluan Trelaine.
>>W-T-Shields-art   (20K)  1/19/01    "War and Tourney Shields"
>>                                        by HL Aaron of the Black
>> Mountains.
>>rattan-msg        (53K)  6/15/05    Working with rattan. Rattan sources.
>>   (Even if you already have your rattan or you will be getting it from a
>> local source, some of the info in here on straightening rattan, or
>> intentionally curving it, shaving it down etc., may be of use)
>>
>>f-fighters-msg    (37K)  1/23/01    Protective gear for female fighters.
>>gauntlets-msg     (18K) 11/ 5/96    Hand protection, gloves, gauntlets.
>>gorgets-msg        (9K)  5/17/96    Gorgets. Neck protection for SCA
>>combat.
>>helmets-msg        (6K) 11/ 5/01    Helmets. SCA and period.
>>helm-padding-msg  (20K)  4/28/02    Padding your SCA helm. Period helm
>>padding.
>>
>>This is a good checklist for everyone to run through before they head off
>>to an event, especially one a long distance from home:
>>armor-chklst-msg  (12K)  9/23/98    Armor checklist for SCA events and
>>wars.
>>
>>Here's a fairly new file to the Florilegium:
>>SCA-armor-lnks    (11K)  6/11/05    Links to information on SCA armor
>>                                        by Dame Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon.
>>
>>Stefan
>>--------
>>THLord Stefan li Rous    Barony of Bryn Gwlad    Kingdom of Ansteorra
>>    Mark S. Harris           Austin, Texas
>> StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
>>**** See Stefan's Florilegium files at:  http://www.florilegium.org ****
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