[Ansteorra] The SCA's existance (was the Death of Chivalry)
Lori Campbell
countesskat at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 4 13:08:05 PDT 2005
> *I find* the idealization of women inherent in the
> chivalric ideal to be *in my opinion* sexist,
> oppressive and demeaning to both parties (not to
> mention *not period*, based as it is on a Victorian
> romantic fantasy of the Middle Ages). Other
> opinions exist and that's fine for them - as long
> as everyone is happy.
Hey, whatever works for you. As a woman in the SCA I
like beating (and being beaten) with sticks, so
obviously I'm not part of the idealizing women crowd
either.
> Just making sure it's clear that not everyone is
> playing the same game here.
Precisely the reason I said "the chivalric values *we
perceive* to be ideal". Maybe I could have been
clearer. Perhaps "the chivalric values we *each*
perceive to be ideal" would have made it clearer that
it wasn't my own personal ideals I was referring to.
Believe me, after some of the experiences I've had in
the society I know that not everybody sees chivalry,
fealty, honor, etc. the same way.
The things I had in mind - values many of us rightly
or not associate with "chivalry" like honesty,
courtesy, integrity, etc. - are concepts that I admit
to taking for granted that the majority of SCAers hold
as important. Hopefully I'm not wrong, but I full
well acknowledge that this could be the case.
Kat MacLochlainn
Wiesenfeuer, Ansteorra
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