[Ansteorra] Romantic Personas

Synrik synrik at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 13 18:02:44 PDT 2005

I wasn't saying that Pirates are OOP (Out Of Period, SCA Acronym) . . . . .
There is plenty of references to them  . . . . both good and bad.

The OOP reference was to Ninjas.  Though they existed in the SCA time period, I
have yet to see a european reference to "little slant-eyed men, dressed in black
silk, flinging round disks of knives, and chopping down people people as if it
were air."

Only in late period do we find Orientals at all.  Through chinese maps show Cape
Horn and the Ivory Coast (they traded with India by sea) long before Marco Polo
was a twinkle in anyone's imagination.

But that's not to say that the handful of Orientals that were around, one of
them could have been a ninja . . . . .  . And was polite enough to hide it.

------------  Gustav

Duncan MacNamara wrote:

> For one thing, pirates are not OOP. We've had this discussion several times
> in fact. What *is* OOP is the image you conjour up when you think of the
> word Pirate... the hollywood stereotype, or the late Golden Age of Piracy
> Pirate. Early Golden Age (1560 on) and such are not OOP. Ever since man
> first decided to build a raft and cross the water, other men have found a
> way to raid said raft. Then dugout canoes... boats... ships... etc. Ever
> since water travel has been feasable, men have found a way to exploit the
> possibilities of financial gain via piracy. It's just that it wasn't
> neccesarily "called" piracy in the days of ancient egypt, greece, etc.
> And it's not that people have the big problem with
> semi-fantasy/legend-related personas. It's that certain people want to throw
> a fit about what they think shouldn't be allowed in their idea of what the
> SCA should be... that's the blunt and to the point answer. I haven't found a
> single person that singles out gypsy personas or picts... and only the rare
> ninja.
> Lord Duncan MacNamara
> Captain of the Iron Lotus
> Commodore of the Allied Outlanders Fleet
> >From: Synrik <synrik at earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> >To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: [Ansteorra] Romantic Personas
> >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:20:13 -0500
> >
> >Romantic Personas
> >
> >As more of a general question that anything else, other than Pirates,
> >Ninjas
> >(OOP) and Gypsies are there any other personas that anyone can think of
> >that
> >seem to be made of more legend / fantasy than Fact?  How about Picts or
> >Druids?
> >
> >Can anyone think of any other personas (in SCA period, 600-1600 ACE, Europe
> >including the old Roman empire) that are in general hard to play due to the
> >lack of information or the deluge of fantastic information?
> >
> >-------------------  Gustav Minnesinger
> >
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