[Ansteorra] Re: gas prices too high...sorry had to share this

Carl Chipman cchipman at nomadics.com
Fri Apr 21 10:31:19 PDT 2006


It's quite possible that the state of California has higher gasoline 
taxes now than then... and it looks like they do...

This site (http://www.vancouvergasprices.com/tax_info.aspx) states that 
California has 26 cents per gallon, but notes that the 18 cent per 
gallon Federal tax not included, and LOCAL gasoline taxes are not 
included.  I'd say the tax rate is really about $.50 per gallon probably.

And delivery charges are not the same for different locations.  They 
tend to get higher the farther you go from the refinery.  Ponca City has 
cheaper gas than Stillwater.  Ponca City also has a refinery in the 
town, there's a bit of a correlation.

JP



Ambience said the following on 4/21/2006 12:02 PM:
> <snip>
>
> At 08:18 AM 4/21/2006, you wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:23:03 -0500
>> From: "David J. Hughes" <davidjhughes.tx at netzero.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] gas prices too high...sorry had to share this
>>
>> Gasoline, $ 3.00 / gallon
>> Federal taxes   0.40
>> Station owner's cut, (pays the salaryof the workers, bills, property
>> tax, etc.) 0.03
>> ExxonMobil's cut  under franchise contract  0.01
>> Delivery charge 0.03
>> Processing  costs 0.25  (operating costs, maintanence, salary of
>> operators, catalysts, etc.)
>> Raw material cost (price of oil per barrel times @1.35 divided by 42
>> gallons per barrel)
>> for $71 per barrel    2.28
>> total 3.00
>>
>> Price of oil is set by market demand.  $1.30 gasoline requires oil at 
>> $18
>> At $1 per barrel, the cost would be $ 0.75
>>
>>
>> That 1.35 number? Not all of a barrel can be made into gasoline, and
>> some of it is used to fuel the refinery itself, to generate high
>> pressure steam, electricity, make hydrogen,  etc.
>
>
> I'm sorry this is off topic, but it really effects our disposable 
> income, ie how much we can spend on our hobbies...
>
> I have to respectfully disagree with some of the numbers above.  I did 
> some searching on just that last night)
> Below is a table I copied from the California state government page. 
> (Sorry I didn't see a table like this for Texas) back in Nov of 2000 
> crude oil was selling around $36 a barrel, yesterday it was $72. By my 
> reckoning that should have doubled the crude oil cost of the equation, 
> adding about 74-80 cents to the cost.  Making the price around $2.60 
> per gallon, I checked http://www.californiagasprices.com/ and prices 
> are around   $3.30 per gallon. Either the dealers or refiners have 
> increased their profit margin by quite a bit.  Oil companies did 
> report record profits last year.  I guess they want to this year too.
>
> Most of us will continue to fork it out at the pumps, gripe about it, 
> and cut back on other things.  Do something Write your congressman, 
> tell him/her how displeased you are, ask them what they are doing 
> about it.
>
> Nov 6, 2000 Nov 13, 2000 Nov 20, 2000 Nov 27, 2000 Dec 4, 2000 Dec 11, 
> 2000 Dec 18, 2000 Dec 26, 2000
> Dealers Cost and Profit Margin (1) - $0.02 $0.10 $0.17 $0.15 $0.16 
> $0.26 $0.26 $0.23
> Crude Oil Cost $0.74 $0.78 $0.81 $0.80 $0.67 $0.59 $0.59 $0.50
> Refinery Cost and Profit Margin (2) $0.57 $0.40 $0.28 $0.30 $0.40 
> $0.36 $0.33 $0.44
> State and Local Sales Tax $0.13 $0.13 $0.13 $0.13 $0.13 $0.13 $0.12 $0.12
> State Excise Tax $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18
> Federal Excise Tax $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18 $0.18
> Retail Prices $1.79 $1.78 $1.75 $1.74 $1.72 $1.69 $1.66 $1.65
>
>
> table from http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/2000.html  (this 
> page has lots of information and graphs)
>
>
> sincerely,
> Seraphina
>
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