[Ansteorra] Principality?

Richard Threlkeld rjt at softwareinnovation.com
Sun Apr 23 20:47:04 PDT 2006


If the creation of Principalities is truly a social thing and it would not
result in people gravitating to "local to the principality" events instead
of the rather wide travel we now have, then it would not affect the cost of
events. 

I believe it would create a new center of activity which is closer or more
"local". People would tend to reduce travel even more than the cost of gas
would require. Some would see this as a good thing, I do not. I would see it
creating less diversity in style, opinion, and activities. 

But, if discussion is to continue, I would echo the call of Darius that we
stick what such a structure would look like and how it could be managed.

Just my $0.00002 and worth a little less than you paid to get it.
Caelin on Andrede 

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I was not here when this was discussed last time and am not sure what all
went on then. The question was not posed to cause heated discussions between
friends or on the list. It is JUST a thought with the rising cost of living.
If spliting the Kingdom up is not feasibe, parts would fold, then of course
it is not an option.

Celestria


On 4/23/06, Don Riney <dmriney at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> First there are a couple of points I thought would be good to mention.
>
> Should Principalities be formed they exist within Ansteorra. There are 
> many Principalities in the Known world that have been Principalities 
> for many years and likely will continue to be so (just check out a map 
> of the Kingdom of the West some time) So the assumption that the only 
> reason to form a principality is to eventually become a Kingdom, to 
> me, seems flawed.
>
> Should Principalities be formed and one does decide to petition to be 
> a kingdom, well then I guess that would answer the question of "who is 
> going to give up being an Ansteorran?" pretty decisively
>
> In answer to Lord Duncan's question of whether or not the Northern 
> Region has enough membership I should think the fact that there are 4 
> Baronies and a Province in the Northern region would suggest there is 
> a rather large populace there even before we start counting Shires and 
> cantons.
>
> However I don't think the question asked today was actually in 
> concerns to just the lands north of the Red River but rather 
> concerning all of us. In the past when I have seen discussions of this 
> issue I have seen much discussion, usually very heated discussion.
>
> I believe Don Alden is right. We have discussed this before on 
> multiple occasions and we always hare about the same things, so let's 
> talk about something new. or at least looking at it in different ways.
>
> 1. What does creating Principalities do to support our populace?
>
> 2. In what ways do we believe it might hurt our populace?
>
> 3. Currently we have problems in the Kingdom keeping offices filled, 
> can a principality administrative structure be supported and sustained?
>
> 4. In the past we have many times spoken of simply changing from 5 
> regions to 5 principalities, however it's not the _Only_ way this 
> concept could go forward, are there any other Ideas of where lines
would/could be drawn?
>
> 5. is there actually enough support for this idea at all? in the past 
> discussions we argued, cried, screamed, and argued some more. then we 
> went to our respective corners and fumed about why the other side 
> wouldn't listen to us while not always being sure who the "other side" 
> actually was.  I don't think we ever got around to any kind of 
> informal or formal show of hands concerning weather or not we 
> supported it in the first place as a populace.
>
> I am sure other people can think of more good questions to add to this 
> list, so if we're going to talk about it lets all take a deep breath 
> count to 10 and have a discussion of the _Idea_ of Principalities.
>
> In Faith
> Darius of the Bells, OL
>
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