[Ansteorra] Province - sorta

Trish Kvamme ladyoftherose at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 23 14:42:59 PST 2006 

Dearest HL Francesca,

All the things you had addressed are things that concern many of us deeply, 
but are a totally different issue that needs to be addressed aside from the 
Province.

The Province is a hot button and all the things you said are in sore need of 
addressing, but they require our realm mates recognizing them and reacting 
to them as a community.  If they get caught up in the Province discussion 
they may be lost for a time, and seeing the state of things, that would be 
tragic.

I too have watched ladies struggling, and when I see it if I can't aid them 
myself I ask one of my husband's squires to help them.  In fact it is one of 
the things we insist upon in our household.  It was once taught SCA wide.   
And it should be everyone's standard.  To those Ladies who do not
wish to be assisted, please take no offense, it is for the rest of us who I 
believe are many.      Gentlemen or strong ladies please don't be afraid to 
offer aid.  It is one of the basics the SCA was founded on, courtesy and 
chivalry that is lacking in todays society.  If you encounter a Lady who 
does not wish assistance, pleasantly wish her a good afternoon.  But please 
do not make that the standard for the rest of us.  Most of us are warmed and 
enchanted by offers of help.

As King Sir Daffyd once left a discussion with other nobles to help me and 
my apprentice carry a basket to our car, that is what should be the 
standard.

Hospitality was once a great virtue.  To ask a gentle out of the sun, to 
offer them a drink.  To carry water to the fighting field, to send a plate 
of food to someone who looked hungry but you didn't know.  Handing largess 
to an artisan or someone who has spent their afternoon cleaning the privy 
for all of us to use.  It used to be taught that these were the great joys 
of the SCA, to love, to recognize, to cherish, to nurture.  That should be 
our focus at events, not gossiping about others,
not talking about the latest movie.  You can do all that at home and invite 
whom you please, events are for everyone not just a select few.

Each crown tries to bring it's own strength and beauty to a reign and to the 
Kingdom.  Some special way to recognize and uplife the people that they 
serve.  But when that service is forgotten and it becomes a contest of 
pushing aside the objectives, graces, and creativity that those before them 
brought forth with love.  What have we to hold up as examples?

We are fortunate in that we have a King and Queen, Peers and Nobles, Lords 
and Ladies, even children who remember that the SCA was about recreating the 
middle ages, not as they were with plague and death, but as they should have 
been from idealistic  even romantic viewpoints.

The only way to address the issues that you bring forth is for you, and me, 
and those that care about these things to attend events, project love and 
joy at those we meet.  Feel honest joy for those who are awarded 
recognition, applaud the good accomlishments of others, be they friend or 
foe, and leave the insta win, envy, frustration, and bad manners of the 21st 
Century where they belong.  At home in the closet with our mundane clothes.

And further dear Lady, do not apologize.  You had the courage to say what 
needs saying.  In fact if you put it on a billboard at the back of each 
revel hall, I would be the one handing you the hammer and nails to hang it 
up.

Cheers.  Perhaps it is just a cycle that has an up side as well as a down, I 
seriously hope so.

Larissa - believer in the dream since 1980

>From: "ylwrose2 at juno.com" <ylwrose2 at juno.com>
>Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Province
>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:46:26 GMT
>
>I regret that I don't recognize your name, so I don't know how long you 
>have shared the Dream or in what way.  So I begin by apologizing in 
>advance.
>
>I have not traveled much in recent years, so you may not know my name 
>either.  I have lived in the Steppes for all of the almost 25 years that I 
>have been participating,
>
>While Alden's presentation may have lacked grace, the underlying sentiments 
>are absolutely correct.  I believe the point he was trying to make is that 
>the principles of the Dream as he and I known them are slipping away before 
>our eyes.  This makes me very sad.  I realize that these changes are a 
>result of our changing mundane society, but to my mind that is the very 
>reason we need to bring the principles of honour, chivalry and courtesy 
>back into the forefront of everything we do in the historical society we 
>choose to participate in.
>
>I seldom see Knights paying 'reverance' to any lady of lower rank as they 
>pass by.  I am disgusted by the Peers disrespect of the Crown during Court 
>by gathering at the back of the hall and chatting while Court is in 
>progress.  I am saddened by Laurels who feel that perfection is the 
>standard, and berating new artisans who 'don't measure up'.
>
>I could go on, but I think you get the gist of what I have to say.  And I 
>think that is the point that Alden was trying to make.
>
>Again, I apologize if I have offended you, as that is not my intent.  I 
>welcome any comments you may wish to share with me.
>
>In Remembrance of the Dream from 1966
>HL Francesca
>
>-- David Whitford <dbw6969 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Wow...so umm Alden since you seem so upset by this I'm
>guessing you feel your Crown did a foolish thing?
>After all a province if I understand correctly is
>still crown lands. As for t-tunics and heraldry and
>such, I gotta ask-have you ever interacted with these
>folks? Or are you just popping off....again? The folks
>I see from up there dress very well, put alot of work
>into many aspects of the game. Oh but wait they dont
>share your view so they are wrong. Do they throw
>parties? Some damn good ones, what of it? I really
>think you should reconsider this blast you have fired
>and calm down some. But what do I know after all I
>have not been around quite as long as you.
>  Robert
>
>--- Paul DeLisle <ferret at hot.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Hmm...no "brass hats"...I assume you mean
> > "Nobility"; i.e. a Baron and/or a
> > Baroness.
> >
> > Well, ya know...Feudalism *is* the WHOLE D**N
> > CONCEPT behind the societal
> > structure of the Middle Ages! (...Ohh, and the SCA,
> > while we're at it!)
> > Crown Lands are the *exception*, not the rule (or at
> > least, they *used* to
> > be...) But then, I'm an Old Fart..and I'm sure I
> > "just don't understand"
> > that people can't be recognized to get along, or
> > co-operate, or grow up and
> > act like adults when they want to have fun.
> >
> > IMNSHO, if you aren't mature-enough as a group to
> > select (or at least
> > generate) someone with enough influence, charisma
> > and leadership ability to
> > be elevated to the Nobility, then you aren't ready
> > for that step!
> >
> > But, maybe we have a good idea here, anyway... While
> > we're at it...let's get
> > rid of some *other* annoying things that get in the
> > way of the Parties;
> > after all, that *is* what's Important, right?!
> >
> > ...Things like those pesky Heralds (Who needs 'em?
> > We can always look up
> > someone's name in the phone book, right? that stupid
> > armory stuff is so
> > boring! Making a shield is hard enough!...why would
> > I want to go to the
> > trouble of "painting" it, too?)
> >
> > ...And, what do we *really* need Laurels for? I
> > mean, after all, all we need
> > are a few people to make armor, and sew up some
> > T-tunics!
> >
> > ...Ohh, and while we're at it...let's get rid of
> > these stupid outdoor
> > events! That way, we don't need to make pavillions,
> > and we can relax in the
> > Air Conditioning! (and, since it would probably be a
> > Gym floor, we can wear
> > sneakers, too! None of that "period footwear"
> > stuff!)
> >
> >
> > Alden
> > (tongue sadly in cheek, and looking for Roberts'
> > Rules of Order at the next
> > Stellar Court...but hey, that's just my
> > opinion...one more reason to
> > re-consider coming back...)
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hmm lets see.. more events right? And besides some
> > consider no
> > > brass hats a good thing.
> > > Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable chariot
> >
> > > > ...Then what's the point?
> > > > Alden
> >
> >
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