[Ansteorra] Jumping in.

HerrDetlef at aol.com HerrDetlef at aol.com
Sat Jan 28 13:05:20 PST 2006


Maybe some things should be reiterated for the record:

1)  I have never voiced any disapproval for the move to make Mooneschadowe a 
province.  I think it is a particularly kick-a** idea whose time is long 
overdue.  There are only a few provinces out there in the world, and that structure 
appears to work very well with the groups in question.  I have stated as much 
on this mailing list.....in fact, my exact words were "Mazel Tov" to 
Mooneschadowe.

2)  I have never suggested that the move to make Mooneschadowe a province was 
done in an underhanded or sneaky manner.  I know fully well the lengthy 
process that you guys underwent to achieve that elevation, and I know that it was 
done 100% out in the open.  I have never suggested, either, that the concerns 
that Master Alden has recently addressed have not or could not be addressed.  
He has excellent questions that have excellent answers, questions without the 
answers to which the elevation would have been impossible.  With a little focus 
on the issue itself, and with a little respect for people who ask to be 
brought back up to speed on the state of things, this whole discussion could have 
been handled with a great deal more civility.  There is no reason to lay into 
Master Alden for his questions and concerns, when those questions and concerns 
can be (and have been, in the process) so easily and so well addressed.  Just 
answer the questions.  All of this stirring up of emotions is achieving 
nothing but leaving a bad taste in people's mouths.

3)  I don't believe that anyone has call to accuse Master Alden of being 
dismissive towards anyone, considering how nobody has bothered to answer his 
questions but instead lashed out at him for allegedly imagining that the questions 
had not been addressed during the process of elevation.  It is particularly 
distressing because the answers to those questions are GOOD ANSWERS.  Of course 
they are good answers.........the Crown, the Officers of State, and the Board 
would not have consented to the elevation without those very answers to those 
very questions.  Master Alden, in the meantime, has been responded to as if he 
is a lunatic, as if he has no idea what he is talking about, or as if his 
opinions and concerns are unimportant.  This is where I am so completely lost:  a 
chance was missed to give the convincing, compelling answers to his questions 
that are already out there, and instead it seems half the posters on this 
list have lashed out at him for not jumping without question on the provincial 
bandwagon.  Mooneschadowe is a fantastic group of people with a fantastic 
reputation all over the Known World, and little service is being done to that group 
by ganging up on the one Ansteorran who had the courage to ask questions.  It 
raises the outrageous suggestion that maybe those questions had not been 
satisfactorily answered in the process of elevation.

I know you mean well, Lord Ivo, and I take no offense to anything you have 
said.  It just seems that you may have missed some important information there.  
I'm totally behind Mooneschadowe becoming a province, but I think also 
there's no reason for going after Alden in the manner he has been gone after when 
his concerns and questions are so easily answered.



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