[Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and belts, OH MY!)

[Karolus Janos]

Aveloc the younger is the individual in question, and while I know he
received the level 3 banishment from the board, I checked the An Tir OP to
see if he was still listed.

Indeed he still is, at position 43, as a Duke of An Tir and various other
assorted awards.  So it appears they didn't strip him of his titles, since I
believe if he had been, the OP would have been updated to reflect it.  I
suppose they decided that removing him from ever playing the game was all
that was needed.

http://op.badger.cx/op/rosters/a.shtml

Karolus

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:43 PM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and
> belts,OH MY!)
> 
> didn't they do that to... oh, what's his ugly mug? - in Antir - you know -
> the porn king - the one they banished forever. I mean, wouldn't that be
> part
> of a forever and ever banishment?
> Deirdre, who worked all day and who's brain shut down a couple of hours
> ago,
> for the weekend
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Chris Zakes
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:18 PM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and
> belts, OH MY!)
> 
> 
> At 02:32 PM 6/24/2006, you wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
> >DANGER, DANGER, TROUBLE MAKING QUESTION AHEAD . . .
> >The SCA doesn't strip people of "land and title" do they? I've personally
> >never heard of it, although BOD banishment would kind of seem to
> effectively
> >do just that. What I'm wondering is, has there ever been a case when a
> >Monarch decided that someone was so disgracing their Order, Coronet,
> >Peerage, etc. that he actually stripped the person of that rank/title?
> 
> 
> Corpora says that the Board can strip someone of their peerage or lesser
> awards (http://sca.org/docs/govdocs.pdf and scroll down to page 29 for the
> details.) Under most circumstances, I expect the Crown of a given kingdom
> would need to make such a recommendation, otherwise the Board is unlikely
> to be aware of the problem. Checking Ansteorran law, it says that a Court
> of Chivalry is required  before such a recommendation could come from
> Ansteorra (http://seneschal.ansteorra.org/forms/Jan2006_Ansteorra_Law2.pdf
> and scroll down to page 30.)
> 
> Although I'm reasonably sure that Courts of Chivalry *have* been called in
> the SCA, I don't think one has ever been called in Ansteorra.
> 
>          -Tivar Moondragon
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