[Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and belts, OH MY!)

[Dennis Grace]

Salut cozyns,

Aveloc the Younger!?!? Gawds teeth! What in blazes did he do? I mean, yeah, 
Harvey was always a bit on the socially inept side, and he had all the tact 
of a sixteen pound sledge hammer, and he always managed to say exactly what 
he shouldn't--but banishment? Wow. Anyone know what he did?

Lyonel
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>From: "Karolus Janos" <karolus at gte.net>
>Reply-To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
><ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>To: "'Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc.'" <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and  
>belts, OH MY!)
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:45:56 -0500
>
>Aveloc the younger is the individual in question, and while I know he
>received the level 3 banishment from the board, I checked the An Tir OP to
>see if he was still listed.
>
>Indeed he still is, at position 43, as a Duke of An Tir and various other
>assorted awards.  So it appears they didn't strip him of his titles, since 
>I
>believe if he had been, the OP would have been updated to reflect it.  I
>suppose they decided that removing him from ever playing the game was all
>that was needed.
>
>http://op.badger.cx/op/rosters/a.shtml
>
>Karolus
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> > bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:43 PM
> > To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and
> > belts,OH MY!)
> >
> > didn't they do that to... oh, what's his ugly mug? - in Antir - you know 
>-
> > the porn king - the one they banished forever. I mean, wouldn't that be
> > part
> > of a forever and ever banishment?
> > Deirdre, who worked all day and who's brain shut down a couple of hours
> > ago,
> > for the weekend
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> > [mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Chris Zakes
> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:18 PM
> > To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Land and Title . . . (Was Squires, Spurs and
> > belts, OH MY!)
> >
> >
> > At 02:32 PM 6/24/2006, you wrote:
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> > >DANGER, DANGER, TROUBLE MAKING QUESTION AHEAD . . .
> > >The SCA doesn't strip people of "land and title" do they? I've 
>personally
> > >never heard of it, although BOD banishment would kind of seem to
> > effectively
> > >do just that. What I'm wondering is, has there ever been a case when a
> > >Monarch decided that someone was so disgracing their Order, Coronet,
> > >Peerage, etc. that he actually stripped the person of that rank/title?
> >
> >
> > Corpora says that the Board can strip someone of their peerage or lesser
> > awards (http://sca.org/docs/govdocs.pdf and scroll down to page 29 for 
>the
> > details.) Under most circumstances, I expect the Crown of a given 
>kingdom
> > would need to make such a recommendation, otherwise the Board is 
>unlikely
> > to be aware of the problem. Checking Ansteorran law, it says that a 
>Court
> > of Chivalry is required  before such a recommendation could come from
> > Ansteorra 
>(http://seneschal.ansteorra.org/forms/Jan2006_Ansteorra_Law2.pdf
> > and scroll down to page 30.)
> >
> > Although I'm reasonably sure that Courts of Chivalry *have* been called 
>in
> > the SCA, I don't think one has ever been called in Ansteorra.
> >
> >          -Tivar Moondragon
> >
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