[Ansteorra] The real problem . . . Officers - F

[L T]

Glad to hear it.

I may well have misunderstood your words...
but I also know several others who took them as I did...

It might be a difference in cultures too...since you
just came to Ansteorra  6 months ago...you may have been using
"short hand" for where you came from...and here
we (or at least I) don't have the same cultural base...
so things that would normally be "assumed" in context
were not understood by me...

Look forward to meeting you

L Deerslayer

Faelan Caimbeul <faelancaimbeul at gmail.com> wrote: I think there was a slight misunderstanding. I'm not suggesting doing any of
this for personal gain. Making yourself known and getting attention helps
you to do your job. If people aren't aware you're trying to do something, or
that you need help, you're not going to get it. If it's public knowledge
you'll probably have people volunteering to help. 

You're right, doing things for selfish reasons inevitably becomes obvious,
but busting your hump for the good of others is obvious too.

Faelan


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From: ansteorra-bounces+faelancaimbeul=gmail.com at ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-bounces+faelancaimbeul=gmail.com at ansteorra.org] On Behalf
Of L T
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 1:38 AM
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
Subject: [Ansteorra] The real problem . . . Officers - F

You're right...for the most part isn't about popularity but about how you
are known by the group and the people who make the decisions. 

If you are unknown to the group...or are known to be more talk than
action...or come off as irritating, then it is less likely that you will be
trusted with responsibilities.

First examine yourself in relation to how you relate to the group and how
the group relates to each other...see if there are things you are
doing...are
standing in your way...

What may counteract that is to ask someone who is a trusted member of the
group to mentor you. Or volunteer and accept mentoring...and really accept
it...not just in words only. Find out what the mentor has to teach you about
how things are done within the group.

Faelan...people can do all the things you suggest...and if they seem needy
and attention seeking...people will ignore them and they will never get the
attention they crave. The best thing to do...is IGNORE WHETHER YOU WILL GET
"NOTICED" AND DO WHAT YOU LIKE DOING...

IF YOU DO THINGS JUST TO GET NOTICED...IT WILL BACK FIRE AND PEOPLE WILL SEE
YOU AS SELF SERVING...AND IT WILL TAKE YOU LONGER TO GET THE RECOGNITION YOU
CRAVE....

The lady you are giving advice to...is a deputy...if she oversteps her
bounds
as a deputy...she will earn the ire of her superior and it will look bad to
all of the group...and set her back in their eyes...it would be much better
that she be considerate of her superior and work with them....

Remember...it is those other people that will be giving her the
recognition...they may be giving her advice...that she is taking as a
personal attack...or they may be presenting it in a rough manner...the
probability is that people are offering her advice...and it is not in a way
that she's used to.

L DeerSlayer


Faelan Caimbeul  wrote: I don't really think this
is a popularity contest. Granted, it can be a bit
more difficult if people don't know you to choose you over someone they are
more familiar with, but I still don't think this is high school. 

If you think you're not popular, how have you made yourself known? Do you
volunteer? Do you attend meetings regularly, ask questions and participate?
Do you attend guilds that interest you and actively try to meet people and
make friends? 

If your office and duties are not being publicized enough, then make it so.
Post on your email list yourself, ask for time at meetings, or just make
announcements yourself. Don't let the other people's attitudes impose on
your parade. Do your best, you will get noticed.

Faelan



  
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