[Ansteorra] Fw: [Steppes] OT Hybrid Cars

[Susan McMahill]

Your Grace, 
 
Lasguaard and I have looked into the Prius a great deal and would buy one in a heartbeat if we had the money for a downpayment. It is amazingly roomy for a small car. We have looked at them for two years at the texas state fair. Unfortunately, Honda has never had one on display. As someone else said, Toyota's technology is different and Honda has acknowledged that it is better. We spoke to a woman in Fredericksburg at a gas station one day who was filling hers up. She routinely gets 70 mpg. She drives between Fredericksburg, San Antonio, and Austin. I have always had incredible good luck with Toyotas and have had three of them which were the best cars I ever owned. I highly recommend the manufacturer and trust their products completely. One of their cars that I owned was a Tercel and it was the first year that it was imported to the U.S. I owned it long enough to put almost 100,000 miles on it and never had a problem with it. I saw it running around my small town in Oregon six years later. I know that a young woman had bought it from the dealer and it probably had at least another 100,000 miles on it and probably was driven harder than I had done. That car would get 50 mpg on the highway fully loaded and with the a/c on. My first husband got that when we made a trip from l.a. to central utah and back for a family reunion the fall after we bought it.
 
Good luck in your search. If you get the prius, you can bet that I will drool over it. :)
 
Lyneya de Grey



> From: ginlee at cnbcom.net> To: elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org; lindenwood at lists.ansteorra.org; ansteorra at ansteorra.org; steppes at ansteorra.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:30:44 -0500> Subject: [Ansteorra] Fw: [Steppes] OT Hybrid Cars> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Gatling" <ginlee at cnbcom.net>> To: "Duncan Hepburn" <duncan at stormypetrel.org>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:08 AM> Subject: Re: [Steppes] OT Hybrid Cars> > > > Thanks to all for the info,> > Micheau likes the civic. He wants it for driving back and forth to > > Parkland (downtown Dallas). I think I will look at the Prius this weekend. > > I don't know if anyone knows or not but Micheau was in an accident a few > > weeks ago and the Sunfire was totaled. I was able to haul 2 sets of armor > > all our light camping gear and pole arms in that vehicle plus the regular > > sized cooler. Thanks to all who replied. I will be at coronation so maybe > > I'll check out some of the hybrids then. I still want a new van but with > > today's gas prices the hybrid is the way to go.> > Sorry for the OT on the list but I value the info.> > Thanks again to all,> > Regina> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Duncan Hepburn" <duncan at stormypetrel.org>> > To: "'Virginia Gatling'" <ginlee at cnbcom.net>> > Cc: "Don Valentyn" <DonValentyn at JeffTurnerFiction.com>; > > <Maaggie1 at gmail.com>> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:57 PM> > Subject: Re: [Steppes] OT Hybrid Cars> >> >> >> Your Excellency et all,> >>> >> I also have to say that I love my Honda Civic Hybrid a lot. It uses a > >> different technology than the Toyota hybrids, so it comes with it's won > >> limitations and advantages that might be different from them.> >>> >> Mine is a compact car, but the interior is very roomy... big enough for > >> my oversized family easily. I am 6'3 and can drive comfortably with my 6' > >> tall son sitting behind me. It has a lot of headroom also, and a lot of > >> safety features including the side curtain airbags.> >>> >> My car had an advertised MPG of 49 city/51 highway. I have found that if > >> I really try, I can easily maintain 42-44 in the city, and 45 or higher > >> on the highway... my record for a tank average was 54.1 mpg... that was > >> over 99% highway driving though, at 63ish mph working actively to > >> maximize the mpg. That is an unusual high though, and I haven't gotten > >> close since.. it was a pain.> >>> >> A major downside to my car is carrying capacity. The area between the > >> rear seat and trunk is where the batteries are... which makes my trunk a > >> bit smaller than the regular civic... and my back seats don't fold down. > >> Travelling to events is a packing challenge, especially with armor and > >> weapons bags. Polearms and great weapons are right out.> >>> >> If you're looking for a car, and need a lot of room to carry cargo, then > >> the Civic isn't probalby your best choice. I've seen Maggie load a ton > >> into her Prius for an event... it's a hatchback, with similar features to > >> mine. That might be better for you if that is the case.> >>> >> Another thing to consider is that the government gives a tax credit for > >> people who purchase a new hybrid. The amount of the credit varies by > >> vehicle, so I'd have to find the table that shows how much goes with > >> each.> >>> >> I think that about covers it for now. You'll find that hybrid owners are > >> very proud, and will talk your ears off about their cars if you let them. > >> =)> >>> >> I'll gladly show it off to you at an event or answer any other questions > >> you have, so feel free to respond.> >>> >> Pax,> >>> >> Duncan> >>> >> p.s. hi Val, congrats on the new baby, we should have lunch sometime =)> >>> >> Don Valentyn wrote:> >>> Hello,> >>>> >>> I like my Toyota Highlander a lot. I had very specific criteria for my > >>> new> >>> car -- I very much wanted a hybrid, but I also wanted an SUV. This> >>> presented a very narrow range of choices, especially when factoring in > >>> my> >>> other criteria: the SUV must have real cargo space, not be a "sport > >>> trim."> >>> If I was going to buy a vehicle with the cargo space of a car, I > >>> would've> >>> simply bought a car.> >>>> >>> So, that limited me to very few choices, and the Lexus was right out > >>> (prices> >>> started at $45k.) Fortunately, the Highlander was in my price range> >>> (though at the very top of it) and Toyota cars in general have excellent> >>> service records. Another big selling point was the side curtain > >>> airbags, a> >>> big deal since we have children.> >>>> >>> My one disappointment is the mileage, but from further research, I > >>> gather> >>> that would have been a disappointment with any vehicle. Apparently the> >>> dealerships are allowed to advertise FAR higher mileage ratings than are> >>> realistically produced. When I'm driving conscientiously, I average > >>> about> >>> 25-27 mpg. (Keep in mind that my daily commute involves about 26 miles > >>> of> >>> residential and 12 miles of highway.) However, the Highlander is > >>> advertised> >>> at 32-35 mpg. I find this to be a pretty serious difference.> >>>> >>> Unfortunately, my offhand research seems to indicate that this kind of> >>> difference between advertisement and reality exists with most hybrids.> >>>> >>> Of course, 26 mpg is still FAR better than the 18 mpg that most gas SUVs> >>> get, so I am still pleased. Also, the acceleration is excellent, the> >>> driving experience is very comfortable and smooth, and I just enjoy the > >>> car> >>> all around. I even use the third-row seats every once in a while; it's > >>> not> >>> very comfortable back there for adults, but it's great for short hops > >>> with a> >>> crowded vehicle for lunch and such.> >>>> >>> That's my two cents, please feel free to email me if you have any > >>> questions.> >>>> >>> Thanks,> >>> Valentyn> >>>> >>> P.S. Hi Duncan!> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Duncan Hepburn [mailto:duncan at stormypetrel.org] Sent: Thursday, > >>> June 28, 2007 10:00 PM> >>> To: Virginia Gatling> >>> Cc: steppes at ansteorra.org; DonValentyn at jeffturnerfiction.com;> >>> Maaggie1 at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [Steppes] OT Hybrid Cars> >>>> >>> As far as within the DFW area, the people I know locally that own > >>> hybrids are myself, with an '06 Honda Civic Hybrid, Countess Margaret > >>> has a Toyota Prius about the same age, and Don Valentyn in Elfsea has a > >>> Toyota Highlander Hybrid.> >>>> >>> There may be others that I don't know of, but I'll forward this note to > >>> both Maggie and Val, and we can give you our opinions of pros and cons > >>> off the list.> >>>> >>> Don Duncan> >>>> >>> Virginia Gatling wrote:> >>>> Does anyone have hybrid cars? We would like to hear the pros & cons as > >>>> to> >>> which are better before we purchase a new vehicle.> >>>> Countess Regina> >>>> _______________________________________________> >>>> Steppes mailing list> >>>> Steppes at lists.ansteorra.org> >>>> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/steppes-ansteorra.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _________________________________________________________________> >>> Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy> >>> with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > > _______________________________________________> Ansteorra mailing list> Ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-ansteorra.org