[Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves

Vicki Marsh vmarsh at twmarsh.net
Mon May 7 13:22:28 PDT 2007


Llywelyn did not have a vigil.

I was being made a Laurel on the same day that Llywelyn was given the
White Scarf. The award is often announced ahead of time and his was
announced at Barn's King's Champion event held in the heat of summer at
Elfsea. 

My elevation to the Peerage and the granting of Llywelyn's White Scarf
both occurred at the Elfsea Defender in 1998.

I had a vigil tent that also had chapel attached. Llywelyn and I offered
prayers for thanksgiving and guidance up to our God in our chapel, as
did many of those who shared their thoughts with me on Friday night.

On Saturday night, Llywelyn held a party, at which much whiskey and beer
was consumed. It was a proper party for Cadets and White Scarves.

Three years prior, at our investiture as Baron and Baroness of Elfsea,
we also had a lovely chapel. Before the evening court, we retired with
guards outside to the chapel together; to meditate, gather our wits, ask
God for Wisdom and courage, and to always be thankful for our blessings
of family and friends.

One can always offer prayers to one's God.

In Service to Crown and Kingdom,

Mistress Xene Theriane


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Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves


Modius and Llewelyn both had vigils.

And about 80%-90%, they are announced.  White scarves rarely are made on
the spot.

Brendan
----- Original Message ----
From: gail young <gwynethb63 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:05:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves


If I am correct in my thinking, this was held after the award was
actually given.
  Once again, I may be wrong and probably should have just kept my mouth
shut<G>
  gwyneth

Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net> wrote:
  I have seen white scarves given, and as the award is a grant level, I 
believe it is usually given instantly, with no advanced notification. 
None of the white scarves I know have ever mentioned sitting vigil, and 
none of the awards I saw with my own eyes included a vigil.

per the OP, I understand that a white scarf is equal in rank to the 
centurion, and they do not traditionally hold vigil either. (again, the 
recipient is usually given all of thirty seconds warning before the 
cloak is thrown over his shoulders.)

I'm sure their has been exceptions to the rule, but I am fairly 
confident that Vigils in Anstorra are popularly considered to be acts 
reserved for pending knights, laurels or pelicans.

Lord Ivo Blackhawk

Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace wrote:
> Salut cozyns,
>
> An interesting thread was initiated on the SCA Chivalry list in
> response to the first member of the Order of the Western White Scarf. 
> Apparently that gentleman sat a vigil. From an historical perspective,

> anyone can choose to hold a vigil prior to any major life change, but 
> I began wondering about former and current practices here.
>
> Do candidates for the White Scarf in Ansteorra ever hold vigils? If
> yes, is this the norm or a rare event?
>
> Merces.
>
> En Lyonel
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