I knew I forgot someone ...and wouldn't ya know it hit at about 3am who it was!!! many thanks also to Lady Lynea and Sir Lasgaard for their assistance in load up as well. ( sorry guys) -- Rebbe Hadassah Sarai bas Yossi MoC Barony of Steppes Dragon's Laire Ceramics www.dlceramics.com "dragon's breath to fire our kilns"