[Ansteorra] Crown heirs--historical/philosophical questions
dontivar at gmail.com
Fri Nov 9 18:42:39 PST 2007
At 11:07 AM 11/9/2007, Elizabeth wrote:
>I believe that NO ONE should enter Crown Tourney
>unless they really want to be crown for the upcoming reign, but it
>happens anyway. Some might say it's because they love fighting in
>that tourney, against all the really good fighters. Some might just
>want to make sure so and so doesn't get it, the fact is it is done.
>But as this "political" side of the SCA is fairly new to me, I am sure
>there are reasons that Dukes can do this and others
>can't/shouldn't/won't whichever is the case. It would be interesting
>to know the history behind it, but for now I will accept it as fact
>and go on.
As I understand things, back in the earliest days of the SCA (like AS
3 or 4) it was expected that *all* Knights would enter Crown Tourney.
Dukes, having already served twice, were exempt from that
expectation. That was the beginning of "Ducal Prerogative."
Around the time I joined (AS 10) I was told that Dukes could *enter*
Crown Tourney at any point during the tournament. I don't know if
that was true, or just a garbled version of the actual policy; in
those days Atenveldt stretched from Arizona north to the Canadian
border and eastward to the Atlantic Ocean. It included the lands that
are now Artemesia, the Outlands, Ansteorra, Gleann Abhann, Meridies
and Trimaris. Crown Tourneys were almost always held in central
Atenveldt (i.e. Phoenix or Tucson) and there wasn't a lot of
communication between central Atenveldt and the outlying regions.
(This was well before email was invented--if you wanted to talk to
someone you had to call them on the phone, write a letter or catch
them at an event.) Much of what we knew about how the SCA worked was,
at best, third or fourth hand.
These days, Ducal Prerogative means "Any Duke or Duchess entered in
the Crown Lists has the right to withdraw from the Crown lists at any
time." That's what Kingdom Law says.
For the record, I don't see anything in Kingdom Law that says other
fighters *can't* withdraw from Crown Tourney at any time. I've never
fought in Crown, so I don't know if there's a custom or unwritten
rule that says you shouldn't do so. But on the other hand, I agree
with Elizabeth. If you're not willing to do the job, why enter the
tourney at all? (And that's *why* I've never fought in Crown: I don't
want to be King.)
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