[Ansteorra] Glaslen SPAM

Susan McMahill sueorintx at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 21 16:32:10 PST 2007

Well-behaved women rarely make history.

> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:16:12 -0800
I went back though my email files and looked at the Glaslyn event messages I have received. There are a couple of duplicates, but in several of them, there is an added class or two. This is well within the body of the message so it is possible that if you didn't take the time to really look at it, but rather assumed (and we all know what Assuming can do) that the email was exactly the same, you might have missed the additions.
Regardless of whether they were the same or not, the best way to handle any complaints would have been off list rather than YELLING at the sender....and the rest of the list or to be more genteel about how it was done. Now I don't know Colleen personally, I have no idea how long she has been playing in the SCA, nor how involved she has been in volunteering in the past. I do know, however, that if I had been chided in the manner that was done this afternoon, when I was a new person trying to help my group out, I would probably have disassociated myself from the SCA. We are supposed to value courtesy, respect, and grace. I didn't see much of that in the complaint emails. 
Our words are a representation of ourselves when we are not in the room. How do you want people to think of you when they finally can put a name with a face? Will they remember the kind words or the harsh ones? Would you rather be publically chided or privately guided? Sending of suggestions off list rather than yelling at someone publically would have been much more appropriate. As my mother...and countless others have said before...if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
> From: love at roseandchad.net> To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Glaslen SPAM> > ????????> > Maybe I'm not on the same lists (I'm on four or five) but I have never seen exact multiple e-mail on the same list. The ones that I have seen have been the same e-mail to multiple lists that I am on (perfectly acceptable), new information e-mails ('Feast is filling up fast, folks, get your reservations in soon!' and the like), and , occasionally, a short follow-up to a complete advertisement e-mail that says 'Just a reminder, <event name here> is this weekend!', which also seems alright. But I've seen the exact advertisement twice today. (It was possibly sent once last night and once today but I received both today, and I check my e-mail constantly as that is part of my work.)> > Maybe we should e-mail the sender first but in this day and age we ALL know what spam is, and if the sender thought it was spam, they probably wouldn't do it in the first place. If you e-mail them directly, you might just end up with a fight or at least some bad feeling, esp. as most people feel very strongly about spam and the like.> > In the end, what is and is not acceptable on the list is not up to me, but up to the moderator, who may or may not prefer to hear us or for us to seek out the sender. As such, I should not have said anything on the list, and for that, I apologize. So I would really like to know what the moderator prefers that we do in cases such as these, in case it occurs again.> > R The O

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