[Ansteorra] Dissolutions..pop numbers..

Bob Dewart gilli at hot.rr.com
Fri Jan 11 03:13:01 PST 2008


It might be interesting to see those numbers toward the middle of 2008.  I 
wonder how many of those Crown Lands folks will renew their memberships?

Gilli
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean Paul de Sens" <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Dissolutions..pop numbers..


> Since we're just taking numbers for fun, lets take another look.  The
> Western region had it's high watermark for membeship in January of 2005 
> with
> 166 members.  The high water mark for Southern was in 511 in 2005, and the
> current is 383.  That does indeed appear to be a drastic drop.  However,
> it's misleading as the Southern region really did not lose as many members
> as it appears.  From 5/1/06 to 5/1/07 the 60 members of Middleford were
> moved into Crown Lands, and no longer counted in the Southern Region 
> total.
> The actual membership lost is more likely from 511 to to around 443 or so
> (and there are probably perhaps even more), so the total southern loss was
> around 68 members.  In the same period, the Western Region loss 60 
> members.
> Similar numbers, but  percentagewise, drastic.  1 in 3 people in the 
> Western
> region let their membership lapse, and only 1 in 8 members of the Southern
> region let theirs lapse.
>
> It's a fairly significant difference.
>
> JP
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 7:10 PM, <ksullivan6 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>>  One of the stated reasons for the dissolutions in the Western region was
>> retention, so I went to look at the numbers for each region and the
>> kingdom.here is what I found using the data I found on the seneschals web
>> page.
>> over the last year each region had a net loss of population
>> Coastal lost .7% of their population
>> Southern lost 15%
>> Central lost 2.3%
>> Western lost 16.3 %
>> Northern lost 3.2%
>> Kingdom overall lost 125 members 3.2% of this 125 Southern lost 73 
>> members
>> Western lost only 22.
>> '07 v '05, 2 regions had a net gain while the other 3 had a net loss
>> Coastal gained 6.6%
>> Northern gained 4.6%
>> Southern lost 16.2%
>> Central lost 8%
>> Western lost 15.6 %
>> Kingdom lost 2.2%
>>  Now as the Kingdom only counts subsribing members here are those numbers
>> '07 v '06
>> Central lost 3%
>> Coastal lost 2%
>> Northern gained 3%
>> Southern lost 13.3%
>> Western lost 14%
>> '07 v '05
>> Central gained 3.6%
>> Coastal lost 12.5%
>> Northern lost 2.7%
>> Southern lost18.9%
>> Western lost 22.1%
>> Also by the Kingdom regulations for population minimum requirements
>> as of 8/1/07 only 2 groups in the kingdom are below the minimum and
>> neither of them are in the groups that are being sanctioned.
>>  Over all it appears that most of the Kingdom has a problem with
>> retention, and it appears by the numbers that Southern is in the same 
>> boat
>> with Western, so why is Western being singled out?
>> > There have been issues with recruitment, retention, reporting and
>> acceptable
>> > officer applicant pools for years. This has been the case from the 
>> > local
>> > level through the regional offices.
>> --
>> Alix
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>> (Hopi)
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