ke5zw at wt.net ke5zw at wt.net
Wed Jan 16 06:25:38 PST 2008

I have got to make this comment..... on the closed meeting issue.

Under the Texas and Calif Open Meetings laws, the SCA and organizations
like it DO NOT fall under those standards by law.

Many organizations do however, follow a basic premise of those lines to
keep an "above board" PERCEPTION of and open operation of the

Having been in many different groups in the past,  there are times that
the officers and others of authority must have the privilege of closed
meetings in order to discuss "delicate or litigious (legal or potentially
legal related) matters" that certain details can not or should not be
shared with the general public.

The wording above comes from several lawyer friends of mine and a company
OGC friend (the legal eagles) that I have presented this issue to

In the past, there have been closed meetings at Red Tape, Coronation,
Crown and other gathering's of Ansteorra.


> I have never seen any closed meetings at any round tables before. BTW
> Supposed closed meetings gets groups shut down. What does it make the
> Kingdom look like?
> Keyna
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Ian Dun Gillan
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:33 PM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] CLOSED MEETINGS
> Greetings All,
> I have thought about the concern of a closed meeting and had to ask
> myself...would I rather the business end of the SCA was taken care of in a
> professional and effectient manner trusting the officers involved to do
> their jobs correctly, or do I REALLY need to be there to be privy to every
> minute detail of the adminstrative business of this Kingdom? Maybe you
> should ask yourselves that same question. Exactly how important is it to
> you
> that you be able to sit there and listen to ALL the details?
> I know what my answer was, being the Baron of Northkeep, and having served
> as both a local and regional seneschal, I can understand the need for a
> closed meeting, especially if it is done to protect the identity of an
> individual or individuals. I trust the Kingdom Seneschal and the Greater
> Officers of State and I would hope that they would not knowingly break the
> rules of this Kingdom, the SCA, or mundane law. I trust that any proposed
> changes in an individual or groups status, or proposed changes in rules or
> regulations that resulted from decisions made in any closed meeting
> invloving offficers of the SCA would be made publically known in as timely
> and professional manner as possible. So given those considerations it is
> my
> opinion that it is necessary that all meetings of officers of the SCA need
> be open to the general populace.
> Kindly,
> Ian Dun Gillan
> Lord of Chemin Noir
> Baron of Northkeep
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