[Ansteorra] Ansteorra Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
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Thu Jan 3 06:40:26 PST 2008
Replied privately to Cuan.
YIS.
HL. D'Alder Camber CSS LXXXV
Head of Household Wolfstar
Wiesenfeuer, Ansteorra.
P.S. I apologize to anyone this affected
The event (Company of Wolves)?is held at Camp Ekowa just outside?beautiful Marlow, Oklahoma
All are welcome, and it will be a good Melee warmup for Winter War Maneuver/Northern Regional Tribute. Then on to WAR.
Merchant and Adventurer
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TWELFTH NIGHT (Mike)
2. Event Locations (Richard Yeager)
3. ISO TESSA (Maleah)
4. Re: TWELFTH NIGHT (HE Chiang)
5. Re: Event Locations (Jean Paul de Sens)
6. Steppes, Elfsea & Glaslyn 12th Night SCHEDULE (Rixende de Rouen)
7. Re: Event Locations (Stefan li Rous)
8. Re: Event Locations (David Backlin)
9. Re: Event Locations (Richard Yeager)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:12:23 -0600
From: Mike <meggiddo at netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] TWELFTH NIGHT
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
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He Chiang and the Western Region,
Greetings from Ld Michael Kettering.
It does sound like a truly enjoyable time that all of you have plan for
this coming weekend. I wish each and everyone a safe and fun event, more
importantly - the upcoming year to be even more filled with fun for one
and all.
YIS,
Ld Michael Kettering
Steppes Km
HE Chiang wrote:
> Why yes there will be. We have one at here in the lovely Western Region,
> that all are more than welcome to attend. We will have in attendance Their
> Royal Highnesses, we will be having a fun tourney, a great feast and last
> but certainly not least Bonwicke is having our Artisan Champion competition.
> Chiang, who will attending the 12th Night in the West
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean Paul de Sens" <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] TWELFTH NIGHT
>
>
>
>> Dunno, which one you referring to? There are *2* Twelfth Night events
>> this
>> weekend.
>>
>> JP
>>
>>
>> On Jan 1, 2008 10:20 AM, Alice Morrow Harris <
>> AliceMorrowHarris at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Greetings From Alina Unto Those In The Know:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what's happening at Twelfth Night this coming
>>> weekend (Saturday, January 5)? The website doesn't really tell you
>>> anything except who cooking the feast and where it's at.
>>>
>>> Need To Know,
>>> Aina
>>> Coming From Bryn Gwlad
>>>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:33:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Yeager <chuymonstre at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Ansteorra] Event Locations
To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
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I just received the latest issue of Black Star. There is at least one
full-paged "ad" for an up-coming event. The event name is listed along with
autocrat contact information and driving directions. No where in the ad is the
sponsoring barony listed nor the "city" where the event was being held. My lady
had to google the camp ground listed in order to determine the event will be
held in Oklahoma.
This is not an isolated case. Every issue of the Black Star has announcements
for upcoming events where the event location is no clearly listed. Sometimes I
recognize a frequently used campground (especially if it is in my region).
Sometimes it requires internet searches to figure whether the event is in Texas
or Oklahoma (or elsewhere in a few cases). I recognize that we are relative
new-comers to the SCA, but it would be helpful if the announcements/ads were a
little more clear on where the event is supposed to occur.
<stepping down from my rant box>
Cuan mac Niall
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:42:06 -0600
From: "Maleah" <baroness_maleah at cox.net>
Subject: [Ansteorra] ISO TESSA
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
<ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
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Would HE Tessa please drop me a line ASAP regarding Queen's Champion week-end.
Thank you,
Maleah
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:44:45 -0600
From: "HE Chiang" <chiang at nts-online.net>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] TWELFTH NIGHT
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
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It is usually lots of fun, we look forward to it. Hope that your new years
brings you all that is good. I look forward to getting out that way in the
upcoming year.
HE Chiang
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <meggiddo at netzero.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] TWELFTH NIGHT
> He Chiang and the Western Region,
>
> Greetings from Ld Michael Kettering.
>
> It does sound like a truly enjoyable time that all of you have plan for
> this coming weekend. I wish each and everyone a safe and fun event, more
> importantly - the upcoming year to be even more filled with fun for one
> and all.
>
> YIS,
> Ld Michael Kettering
> Steppes Km
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:54:51 -0600
From: "Jean Paul de Sens" <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Locations
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
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There are only two official events announcements in the January Blackstar
that are in Oklahoma, Queen's Champion and Winter War Manuevers. Both of
those have the mundane locations listed. The Company of Wolves is just an
advertisement, and is not required to have the same information an official
event ad must have. Is that the one you are referrring to?
JP
On Jan 2, 2008 9:33 PM, Richard Yeager <chuymonstre at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I just received the latest issue of Black Star. There is at least one
> full-paged "ad" for an up-coming event. The event name is listed along with
> autocrat contact information and driving directions. No where in the ad is
> the sponsoring barony listed nor the "city" where the event was being held.
> My lady had to google the camp ground listed in order to determine the
> event will be held in Oklahoma.
>
> This is not an isolated case. Every issue of the Black Star has
> announcements for upcoming events where the event location is no clearly
> listed. Sometimes I recognize a frequently used campground (especially if
> it is in my region). Sometimes it requires internet searches to figure
> whether the event is in Texas or Oklahoma (or elsewhere in a few cases). I
> recognize that we are relative new-comers to the SCA, but it would be
> helpful if the announcements/ads were a little more clear on where the event
> is supposed to occur.
>
> <stepping down from my rant box>
>
> Cuan mac Niall
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:48:01 -0600
From: "Rixende de Rouen" <rixende at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ansteorra] Steppes, Elfsea & Glaslyn 12th Night SCHEDULE
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>,
"Barony of Elfsea" <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>, "Barony of Steppes -
SCA, Inc." <steppes at ansteorra.org>
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Greetings Unto the Kingdom of Ansteorra from Baron Borek and HL Rixende,
stewards for Steppes, Elfsea and Glaslyn 12th Night.
This year, we once again promise you the traditional laid-back and festive
12th Night. In the spirit of trying something new, the schedule for the
event is different than in previous years. Please review the schedule and
adjust your travel plans accordingly, if necessary. As always, this is an
approximate schedule and is subject to the whim of Their Excellencies
Steppes and Elfsea.
10 am: Site Opens
11 am: Opening Court
12 pm (?): Landed Lunch
2 pm: Main Court
3 pm: Catapult Competition to begin
4:30 pm: Entertaining Performances by Artisans from throughout Ansteorra
(performers have been prearranged by Duke Miguel Sebastian de Oporto)
6 pm: Feast
8:30 pm: Closing Court
NOTES:
The traditional costume and table decorating contests will be judged
throughout the day, and the winners will be announced during closing court.
Costume Contest Categories are:
MALE: early period, late period.
FEMALE: early period, late period.
Best child's costume
Areas of the site will be open to the public while 12th Night is going on.
The site is STRICTLY DRY until 5 pm. Please abide by this rule and leave
alcohol in your vehicle until 5 pm.
In Service to Ansteorra,
Baron Borek
HL Rixende
--
Honorable Lady Rixende de Rouen, CIM, CSM
Central Region Rapier Marshal
Quidam audit valde, facit valde
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 00:53:58 -0600
From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Locations
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <E6D4D752-E429-42F4-9797-2F267AA7FCA5 at austin.rr.com>
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On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:54 PM, Jean Paul de Sens wrote:
> There are only two official events announcements in the January
> Blackstar
> that are in Oklahoma, Queen's Champion and Winter War Manuevers.
> Both of
> those have the mundane locations listed. The Company of Wolves is
> just an
> advertisement, and is not required to have the same information an
> official
> event ad must have. Is that the one you are referrring to?
>
> JP
Official or not, this isn't a question of what is *required* in an
announcement. Cuan mac Niall's comments are a good indication of
something that should be in every event announcement. Other phrases
like "same site as last year" without further directions are also
incomplete. Even for folks who have been here for a while, do you
have and can you locate all your BlackStars from last year?
SCA maps are another thing which I've seen vary from impossible, to
just poor, to quite good over the years I have been in the SCA.
I have this rather small file in the Florilegium SCA-EVENT-PLANNING
section, but I would love to have more articles on writing good SCA
event announcements and/or directions/maps.
event-maps-msg (4K) 11/29/01 Making maps to SCA events.
Stefan
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THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas
StefanliRous at austin.rr.com
**** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 07:06:50 -0600
From: "David Backlin" <edrei at smythkepe.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Locations
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <003301c84e09$82245330$eb96b246 at YFNETM>
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reply-type=original
My Shire verifies event directions every year. Someone actually goes out,
drives the directions and notes any changes or errors. Sometimes the
changes are relatively minor (the highway department had shrunk the guide
sign to our site one year), sometimes major (a new exit on the Interstate).
Our flyers include detailed written directions, though do not always include
maps. But we DO make it a point to verify the directons every year.
My 2 pfennigs worth.
THL Edrei the Quiet
(mka David Backlin)
Merchant and Adventurer
Shire of Smythkepe
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 05:30:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Yeager <chuymonstre at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Event Locations
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Message-ID: <966435.22984.qm at web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Good Sir,
I honestly didn't not look to see if the event was "official: or not. It was an
event advertised in the Black Star and gave no indication as to where it was
being held (or even who was sponsoring the event). This is not the first time I
have found ads or announcements that did not include that information. They may
not have been official either. As Lord Stefan mentions in another reply to this
thread, it really doesn't matter whether it is official or not. If you want
people to attend your event, it would be helpful to let us know which city and
state the event is located in.
Another reply mentioned that their Shire always confirmed the driving directions
listed. Again, that was not really the issue. If you do not have a clue where
the event is being held, giving the names of a couple of highways and FM roads
isn't helpful. THose directions may be accurate, they just may not overcome the
lack of orientation. When the directions involve state highways and local roads
without another other reference point, it still means having to search for
information from the internet. I believe it was the ad for the Company of
Wolves event, though I have seen this same problem in virtually every issue of
the Black Star for other events. Some of the non-Interstate highways listed in
the Company of Wolves announcment exist in both Oklahoma and Texas, on opposite
sides of the Kingdom from each other.
My original post was not intended as a criticism or slight. It was merely a
comment on a problem I felt event planners should consider when creating
announcements for their events. I am certain that the local members know of the
event and where it is generally located (for recurring events). But people that
are outside of that area or region may not know the event. By putting the
announcement in the Black Star, I would assume that planners are trying to get
people further away to attend. Just help us orient to the event a little
better.
Cuan
Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com> wrote: There are only two official
events announcements in the January Blackstar
that are in Oklahoma, Queen's Champion and Winter War Manuevers. Both of
those have the mundane locations listed. The Company of Wolves is just an
advertisement, and is not required to have the same information an official
event ad must have. Is that the one you are referrring to?
JP
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