[Ansteorra] events for non-fighters (was bards, brewers, and cooks)

lambdakennels1 at juno.com lambdakennels1 at juno.com
Thu Jan 10 07:41:24 PST 2008


I am not a bard, but a woodworker.  There is no A&S competition at coronation, Queen's Champion, Elfsea Defender, and some of the other events.  At Warlord, the A&S is an after thought and most people don't even bother to enter.  So I guess my perspective is from the point of view of someone who is not a bard, or a herald, or a brewer.  I can cook, although the results vary in quality.  I would like to learn to cook better, and using period recipes, where safe.  I am handicapped, so can't fight.  At a lot of events, the only thing for someone like me is to sit and visit.  While that is pleasant, it is not worth the $50 or so in gas and the $10 - $15 in entry fees to me at this time, because I don't have the money to go to many events.  So I pick the ones with A&S competitions that are within about 200 miles of me.  Some months that is slim pickens.  Yes, I am a relative newcomer.  However, since we are talking about retention and recruitment, my opinion is valid for me and some subset of others who are in a similar situation.  I do not know how large that subset is, but feel it is large enough to be heard.  I did not mean to offend the fighters, Sir Jean, although I can see how you might be offended.  However, I do feel that the fighting often overshadows the other parts of the events I attend.
As to distance and travel times, I suppose that is relative.  I drive two hours to officer's meeting every month, on a week night.  I try to go to populace meeting, also two hours away, also on a weeknight. When I was doing pointer rescue, I often got frustrated when a dog in the NorthEast needed rescueing, because people there would not drive 30 minutes to pick one up.  I drive 30 minutes to get to the grocery store!  That does not diminish the anguish of the West, but there are others of us who travel a long distance to practices and meetings, too.  Texas is a big place, and so is Oklahoma, and we are all spread out.

Lady Stephanie Lilburn, who seems to be suffering from foot in mouth disease this week.
Stephanie Smith, Ph.D
Hunt County, Texas
Owned by a Poodle and an Australian Cattle Dog
K5AMK


-- Greg Coffman <baroniago at earthlink.net> wrote:
So which fighter only events are you talking about?  I've never been  
to an event where bards were not allowed to perform. I've been to few  
events where cooking was forbidden, or heralds told not to yell  
things.  Brewers are sometimes out of luck at dry sites, but at any  
other event, we're usually welcome.

Iago
On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Richard Yeager wrote:

> Okay, so this isn't a period response (or at least an SCA period  
> response) but "Amen Sister!"
>
> Cuan
>
> "lambdakennels1 at juno.com" <lambdakennels1 at juno.com> wrote: I  
> personally feel too much attention is given to fighters and not  
> enough to other people.  If you look at most events, the artisians,  
> bards, heralds, and such are putting on the event, even if it is a  
> fighter only event.  The A&S competition, except for Steppes  
> Artisian and Kingdom A&S, usually gets short shift while the  
> fighting takes center stage.  At many events, there is nothing for  
> a non-fighter to do if they are not part of the event crew.   
> Wouldn't it be nice if just once the fighters put on an event for  
> the artisans, bards, and heralds?  No fighting allowed.  Any  
> fighter who complained of boredom could be given a job to do to  
> keep them from being bored.  (You are bored?  We will find you  
> something to do!).
>
> Lady Stephanie Lilburn
> Stephanie Smith, Ph.D
> Hunt County, Texas
> Owned by a Poodle and an Australian Cattle Dog
> K5AMK
>
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